Way to Go PKI's Vortex Crew!
KW_Phantom said:
i know my jugdment and i know how far i can push it. He was in no danger what so ever.
The boy was in danger! HE WAS 2 INCHES SHORT! To say that your judgement was good enough about a ride that YOU did not design, YOU did not do the safety tests on, and YOU did not set the height requirement on is flat out BOLD! *** Edited 4/15/2005 7:41:53 PM UTC by Trick Track***
What if he came back hurt? What would you do then? What would you say to the kids parents?
I cant believe you would be so careless.
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
crazy horse said:
What would you say to the kids parents?
I'm gathering he would of said that "I used my judgement he should have been fine"
1. I think the height requirement is set by the park you work for and/or the ride manufacturer. Take it up with them if you think it's too strict. I doubt any would admit they'd let it up to the ride ops to enforce based on their own judgment.
2. It may have only been one kid, but if your judgment tells you it was OK that time, it certainly will say it's OK the next time (hey nothing bad happened last time), and the time after that and so on. How long are you willing to ride that streak?
3. I'm sure there are lots of ride operators, park owners, etc. who found themselves in a courtroom or on the receiving end of a lawsuit based on a "judgment calls."
4. If you ever find yourself testifying in a courtroom with a story like that, bring along a box of Depends, because the plaintiff's attorney will rip you a few new ones.
RatherGoodBear said:
4. If you ever find yourself testifying in a courtroom with a story like that, bring along a box of Depends, because the plaintiff's attorney will rip you a few new ones.
That is very true! :) (Can't get off the floor laughing so hard)
1. No one would be dumb, irresponsible or asinine enough to do this in the first place.
2. If they were that dumb, irresponsible or asinine, they wouldn't be dumb, irresponsible or asinine enough to admit it publically.
3. If they were that dumb, irresponsible or asinine then God help us all.
Jack ass. You're the reason people die. You aren't qualified to make those decisions. You do what the manufacturer and your employer says. You're not an engineer or safety expert. Moron!
KW_Phantom said:
i knew this coaster wasn't very big or anything so i just let it go. They were already locked in and i didn't feel like tellin the ops to unlock all the seats to let them out.
Banhammer. I don't want morons like you here.
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Neuski said:But it saved her life. I would wait all day if it meant someone's life would be saved.
Mark Burleson said:The E-stop wasted much time for park employees, not to mention the inconvence it caused for the park guests on the ride and the ones who wanted to ride.
Also... where is the cell phone situation guess coming from? Maybe he/she dropped his or her burrito and didn't see the girl.*** Edited 4/11/2005 5:14:35 PM UTC by Neuski***
I fully agree with you that someone's life should be saved @ any cost but personally, I think she would have been fine. Those over the shoulder restraints are impossible for anyone bigger than a baby to get out of.
Still, it was a good mood.
If kids really had to be 48 inches (or whatever height) for a rollercoaster than I'm sure that alot more kids would have fallen out by now. It's not that hard for ride ops to check heights every once and a while and I've never heard of a kids falling out except for a restraint failure or something like that.
Obviously the ht. requirement is supposed to be that way just in case.
It amazes me to this day you only have to be 42 inches for Big Bad Wolf.
I had my brother on that when he was 3 years old lol and now he's 8 and began riding Millennium Force when he was 6 and Dragster when he was 7.
Neuski said:
But it saved her life. I would wait all day if it meant someone's life would be saved.
Also... where is the cell phone situation guess coming from? Maybe he/she dropped his or her burrito and didn't see the girl.*** Edited 4/11/2005 5:14:35 PM UTC by Neuski***
I know this was from a few days ago...I must have missed it, but I need to clarify. The cell phone story was to show that the ride op at the controls is checking everyone as they leave the station, and if there is a problem, they stop the train. Nothing else.. Then in reference to the e-stop, I was stating that the E-stop should have never happened in the first place, the crew should be punished, and it wasted the time of everyone involved. I NEVER stated that because the E-stop wasted time that they should have never have used it and let an un-safe action take place. I guess I should have included something about it being un-safe, but I never figured someone would turn around the entire context of the post.
KW_Phantom said:
i have to admit, i have let a kid on this one coaster and he was a couple inches too small. I didn't see him get on with his mom. I guess they were trying to be slick and they walked on super quick (the line moves fast on this ride when boarding) well i knew this coaster wasn't very big or anything so i just let it go. They were already locked in and i didn't feel like tellin the ops to unlock all the seats to let them out. All i did was tell the lady to hold on to him cause he was too small and she was fine with it. Its not a big coaster and not that fast. He was fine when he came back. He was laughing and everything. That happened only once in the whole year. I usually never miss a kid, he just slipped by. People make mistakes. If it was a bigger coaster then i would have told them to get off. But it's not that big so i didn't say nothin. The ride ops saw too that he was too small but it really wasn't a big deal. My point is, sometimes you can't see a smaller kid when boarding but they should have still saw her when checking bars. Thats when i saw him.
Holy Crap dude. Do you realize that you could have cost your park several millions of dollars, not to mention you endangered a child by violating a rule that was placed there to ENSURE the safety of a small child?? I don't even pardon a quarter of an inch, but TWO INCHES??? The height requirements are there for a reason, no matter how extreme you think the ride is, you shouldn't let anyone on the ride even if they are only a millimeter below the requirement!! Hopefully, you will take all of these posters words into strong consideration the next time you are standing at the front of a line with your so-called "height stick"!
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