Walt Disney World announces closures starting Monday

bjames said:
The rest of us shouldn’t have to suffer from this crap.

Exactly how are you suffering?

These two week closures are just tossing a dart. I will be stunned if my kids are back in school in two weeks. Because of the massive (and inexcusable) delays in testing we are going to see "confirmed" cases of the virus climb exponentially, likely over the next month at least. They can't send kids back to schools or reopen the parks while the numbers continue to climb.

bjames said:
The people most at risk should be protecting themselves while the rest of us go about our business.

This is inexcusably selfish and short-sighted. I am not isolating because I am at risk. I am doing that because it helps spread out and reduce the total impact on the health care system and society at large. Yes, there is an economic impact of these measures. The impact of not doing them is likely to be much worse, with more significant health care shortages and more deaths.

Dead people don't participate in the economy.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/13/opinion/coronavirus-...ponse.html

wahoo skipper said:

These two week closures are just tossing a dart. I will be stunned if my kids are back in school in two weeks. Because of the massive (and inexcusable) delays in testing we are going to see "confirmed" cases of the virus climb exponentially, likely over the next month at least. They can't send kids back to schools or reopen the parks while the numbers continue to climb.

The best estimate I've seen was that US infection rates would peak early- to mid-April without aggressive social distancing measures. With them, it will be later. U-M has already canceled in-person events and instruction through early May, and we will probably go deeper into the spring and summer. We are not ruling out continuing virtual instruction in September.

bjames said:
The rest of us shouldn’t have to suffer from this crap. The people most at risk should be protecting themselves while the rest of us go about our business.

I don't think you quite appreciate the science of epidemiology. You're making the argument of an anti-vaxer. Dr. Gupta I think made it the most clear the other night. Skip to about 6:15 in. I'll wait...

The long and short of it is that the behavior of others is more likely to spread infection than your own. My risk profile is directly correlated to the frequency with which you leave the house. Do you really think that anyone in the Seattle area thought they were "at risk?" In fact, the people at the nursing home where it started were not at risk by their own actions at all, because they don't leave the nursing home. The disease was brought to them.

So maybe get the science before you start insisting on your entitlement.

https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/03/14/disney-college-...-sent-home

"Never let science get in the way of a good opinion."

Look, there is a possible point to be made that the economic and social disruption is not worth the extra 100,000 or 1,000,000 lives or whatever. I don't agree but one could make that point.

But that's not the argument you're making. You're saying it won't cost those lives and everyone who has spent their entire careers studying, learning, and preparing for these things is telling us it will. Science is real. Sorry.

Edit: Noticed Gonch made this exact point in the Shanghai Disney thread so maybe follow this particular discussion there?