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#1 Canobie Lake Park Fan!!! My top 7 coasters:
1. S:RoS @ SFNE 2. Montu 3. Yankee Cannonball 4. Kumba 5. Gwazi 6. Cyclone (SFNE) 7. B:DK
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Formerly Glidein
I really like the nautical theming in the Autralia set too.
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Yeah, if coasters WEREN'T men we'd have Raging Cow instead!;)
Most of the new scenery is ugly or useless or just looks really fake and out of place. Most of the new rides look like crap. There are bugs in the scenereos and in several of the animated objects. The new scereos are relatively boring as well.
There are no *new* rides (just re-themed rides that you have to be told what the theme is because you certainly couldn't tell by looking), no bug fixes, no game-play changes or enhancements.
It's a pathetic and cynical money-grab on the part of Atari/Infogrames. I don't believe Chris Sawyer was even remotely involved in this embarassing travesty.
New scenarios, great new themed rides, tons of additonal scenery. Pretty much everything as promised :)
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Jonathan
#1 Coaster Fan
It's not a total disaster of an add on but certainly won't be a better expansion than Corkscrew Follies which had new rides shops and themes. Some of the new ride themes make them different enough to use a separate flat rides in the same park but as with the snow cups there are some annoying accessories like on the Taxi themed tea cup there are giant cops. Without them you could probably theme this ride as a demolishion derby but with them it doesn't fit. Traffic Jam works though.
There is also a new mini car ride called dog sleds which actaual dogs pull a sled around the track. I hope in any new expansion the take this to the next level and make a Stage coach ride with horses. Stage coaches on the wooden coaster look stupid and mine cars on the woodie look out of place with 2 types of mine train track in the game.
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RCT INSOMNIACS
KIMBERLY LAKE INC.
*** This post was edited by john13601 5/23/2003 8:59:48 AM ***
The review is pretty much on the mark.
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Who: Man
What: Can now fly
When: 2003
Where: SFGAm
Why: For A Fast-Paced, Heart Pupming Energy Rush
How: On S:UF !!!!
I and others might not be so critical if this was a free update or something along the lines of $5, but as it is I have to completely agree with the GameSpot review: POOR.
We all understand by now. Anonymouse doesn't like the addon - we get it.
The sad thing is you have to look to professional reviews to get some backup as if majority opinion matters in any way. To each their own. If it's worth the price (whatever one may have paid) to you, then it's worth it. If it's not, it's not.
7 people in this thread felt it was worth their time and money. You (and gamespot) didn't. No biggie either way.
What's the ulterior agenda with your repeated bashing of the game? Seems like some weird mission to kill it.
And please don't give me the "I'm trying to help other people from being ripped off" plea. There's plenty of people quite happy with it so all you're doing is talking potential buyers out of a game they might just love.
That's sad, really. I'd like to see some more addons and even an RCT3.
If I hated something so badly, I'd probably try to avoid it at all costs rather than dwell on it so feverishly.
...and just for arguements sake:
1. The graphics are poor? These are some of the best RCT graphics to date. Peeps in coaster trains is stretching for something. It's one of the most minor elements of the game. It's has no importance whatsoever.
2. Useless? I haven't found a single piece I couldn't use yet. In fact you'll find so many people being inspired by new scenery items that they complain that not enough can be added to one scenario at a time.
3. Sure there's some good stuff on the net for free. I have some of that too. I also wanted the new "official" themes and pieces. They can coexist.
4. Boring scenarios is just as subjective as the rest of your arguements. I liked them for the most part. It depends on your style and taste I guess. They're pretty much the same sort of scenarios we've seen up to this point. If you've liked the past ones, these are no different.
5. Free update? $5? How is Infogrames (Atari?) supposed to make any money this way? The free stuff has been the crappiest - how many of you found that wonderful "pink water" patch to be of any use? Yeah, me neither. It takes time and resources to create even the simplest of scenery - way more than you apparently know about. I doubt the "let's sink a ton of money into a free update" approach would be very worthwhile for a company attempting to turn a profit.
The bottom line is that it is what it is. Give an opinion - that's great. It's what makes the world go round. But you're just kicking a dead horse here. Sorry you don't like it. But I think it's time to move on...
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Lord Gonchar said:
The free stuff has been the crappiest
Hey, I liked Panda World! :)
While I don't have the game yet, the only thing that really sounds annoying is the ability to not mix the themes together (but we have that in RCT2 to a certain extent, too).
No, they're not. Some are good, but there are graphic glitches in several of the objects (look at the white oriental flag where the top is out of alignment for a few frames at the end of each cycle... sloppy) as well as several of the new rides. And it's not just sloppy rendering with different color paletes (and some objects with changeable colors that, oops, don't change). Many objects are sized completely incorrectly, and/or look completely out of place when used (like those huge fake uber-green cactus, as just one example of many).
"How is Infogrames (Atari?) supposed to make any money this way? "
How about by putting out an expansion that is worthy of the "Roller Coaster Tycoon" name? How about putting out an expansion that actually contains ANYTHING that the users and players of this game want? How about some freaking patches for the bugs? How about an expansion that contains any of the things they left out of RCT2 that were in RCT1? How about game-play enhancements or actual NEW rides? How about an expansion that doesn't look like little more than a cynical grab for cash? Or if they're going to just assemble a bunch of objects and warmed over existing rides, how about pricing it at something less than the current price for the whole full RCT2 game?
If you want to be taken advantage of, go ahead. There are a LOT of people very upset and/or unhappy with this expansion (go over to the official infogrames/Atari RCT2 message boards and see for yourself), so don't act like it's just me and Gamespot.
We all deserve better than this. It would be an okay "object pack" if it were priced at least half what it is, or it'd be a decent expansion pack if it actually included the same sorts of enhancements that every single expansion pack in this series previously has had, but as it is right now, it's little more than an insult.
If you really want it, I suggest waiting a month or two and getting it from the bargin bin for about what it's worth, rather than paying the current asking price.
If you read through all threads on this site, everyone has some sort of problem with everything. There are people on here saying "w4kkie w0r1dz h4z n0 n3w ryd3z!!!11" but that's not true. If something new is in the rides folder, then it's a NEW ride!
I like Wacky Worlds because of the theming and the cool rides. And I know some of you people will say "H3 JU$T LI3KZ WW CUZ 3V3RY1 3LS3 H4T3S 1T!!!111111". But no, I actually do like WW because it broadens any theming options. Infogrames wouldn't have released this if it "suxor4d". Maybe the next expansion will have all new realistic rides and no theming, so it kind of makes it equal. :)
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ON topic, I like the new themed rides, this was something I always thought the game was lacking. I'm sure there will be another add on, with coasters and maybe a couple of flats and stalls(as if we need more stalls). Like Gonchar said, I'd love to have the ability to have MORE scenery objects in game, but i'm coping(and I have alot of custom made stuff from off the net). If they release another expansion that just has more scenery and more themed rides, I probably won't buy it. Not because I don't want the stuff, but in my opinion, I dont' have enough room on my computer for an expansion that won't do me much good, since I can't have all the stuff in one game anyhow. As for scenario play, I have never tried the scenarios off of the actual game, and these are no different. I've looked at all of them, but thats about it, I like making my own parks/scenarios. It was definitly worth it to me, I'm glad I rushed out to get it when I got back from a real theme park and being with family for a weekend!
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PT300 said:Hey, I liked Panda World! :)
While I don't have the game yet, the only thing that really sounds annoying is the ability to not mix the themes together (but we have that in RCT2 to a certain extent, too).
Ok, so I liked Panda World too...
As far as mixing themeing types - you can! It's not the inability to mix that limits you, it's that there's so many scenery items packed into the new scenery groups that you quickly reach the game's limits for what you can add to a single scenario.
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Lord Gonchar said:
2. Useless? I haven't found a single piece I couldn't use yet. In fact you'll find so many people being inspired by new scenery items that they complain that not enough can be added to one scenario at a time.
You used the Go-Go Girls??? Honestly, I think it's alright. It has some uses like the RnRc cars for re-creations, some of the scenery is really good, you could use some of it for like BGT or Animal Kingdom. Some of it is crap(admit it)Like the Go-Go Girls, Gigantic Cowboys. How many of us have gone to an amusement park where they have like 50' cowboys looming over the entrance of a coaster? I like it and it would be worth about $15. I don't think scenery is worth $30, but $15, I ca dig that. I just hope that the next expansion won't have only scenery.
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