1,120 feet of track had to be replaced after it's first year of operation? Out of a total 6,442 feet in the entire ride? Is it me, or does this seem like a lot?
Will Koch said, in a HoliBlog post from April:
Particularly in the high-speed sections, where the ride could be marred by a bad shimmy, the train moves very well. And I'm optimistic that the steel structure (and thicker side steel) will help us to postpone major track work for a very long time.
So what exactly constitutes major track work? *** Edited 11/30/2006 5:24:14 PM UTC by Jeff Young***
Just good maintenence. I think that it will in other places have to be replaced, but i think that doing it for the sake of doing it to make it better is still the main reason they are doing it. Because i thought if it was not maintenenced well it would become bumpy a bit, because this thing is agressive. Good call by the Kochs to know the way a coaster like this should and is being treated. *** Edited 11/30/2006 5:34:19 PM UTC by MagnunBarrel***
To me, the out of control feeling and speed that The Voyage and Hades provide are much much more exciting than the twisty smoothness of GCI's. Yes it will take more money to maintain them, and yes they will need work more often, but they really are the most fun rides to many people. *** Edited 11/30/2006 6:07:40 PM UTC by RollrCoastrCrazy***
To me, the out of control feeling and speed that The Voyage and Hades provide are much much more exciting than the twisty smoothness of GCI's.
I like a little of both ...that's why I'm glad Rumbler and TV are less than 2 hours apart from each other *AND* both less than 3 hours from me!
Not really any surprise about the retracking on TV. It's the most aggressive woodie I've ever experienced. If they were actually changing some of the layout, then I would be more surprised. I'm still not too crazy about the reverse banked curve out in the back, so it could lose that for all I care, but otherwise I LOVES it.
"You are never done building a wooden coaster."
Looks like HW understands that.
To me, lightning racer was one of the smoothest wooden coasters I ridden. To me the best wood coaster trains in the business, when it comes to overall comfort, safety, and tracking are the millenium flyer trains built by Great Coasters. The GCI ones that have PTC trains that I went on, Wildcat, Gwazi, and Roar East, seem relatively smooth. None I would consider rough. Just curious what GCI coasters you been on, since to me they are usually very smooth, especially the ones with their ownt trains on them.
I don't actually know; it's just a guess on my part. But I rode The Voyage on Labor Day weekend, and unless it got significantly worse between then and the end of the season, I don't think there was 1,100 feet of track that felt like it could use any improvement. That distinction actually belonged to the Legend, which seemed to be in pretty miserable shape compared to the other two wood coasters*.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
* though still a lot better than wood coasters at certain other ParKs I can think of...
Dave, you've got me. i Personally Kannot Imagine whose wood you're talking about.
Undeveloped land is going to be much more solid.
What about 'settling'? I mean since most of this coaster was placed on undeveloped land, is it possible some of the supports settled, thus causing some unnecessary wear in the track?
What about 'settling'?
Which is why GCI uses cement slabs for their coasters.
Aside from the developed/undeveloped debate, footers serve one purpose and I absolutely believe that those responsible made sure that these footers, and all other coaster footers, wouldn't move.
I'm pretty sure a troupe of Mexicans built The Voyage, not TGG. I agree with Scott that Hersheypark's Wildcat will kick your ass and feels like it needs a ton of work. Actually, I haven't been on a GCI that I'd consider "smooth" either.
What do Wildcat and Voyage have in common? Why doesn't GCII use those anymore? Reason, Trackwork.
Even though PTCs now have articulating rear axels they exert a twisting on the track simply due to their design(Wheelbase). (It's not PTC's fault really, The trains configureation have been around almost as longer than the Prior and Church trains which GCII's are patterned after.
Wanna see a woodie that blows every other woodie away in retracking? THE BEAST and it's braked to death. Latetly the helix gets retracked every other year if not more, several spots in it's low fan curves after the old midcourse are retracked twice a season.
Will knew the would be needed, It's also had trackwork durring the season as well.
Chuck, who's more than happy with the way Raven runs 11 years into it's lifetime :)
All this talk does not accomplish much since if the ground does shift and disturbes the coaster, it will do little damage. Fixing the track has almost nothing to do with the ground. In some cases though, if the ground does move it will create problems. Bottom line is that the ground and coaster need to work as one. The coaster will need more work from the abuse it takes through the ridding season.
I must add I can't believe some of you guys don't know more about what happens to wood with weather and temperature change. If it gets cold outside, wood will warp and become a completely different shape AND size. The thing's you learn about wood in shop class. I would try to find out if some of that would is splitting aswell and how cold that park gets through the off season.
*** Edited 12/1/2006 7:15:29 PM UTC by CoasterDiscern*** *** Edited 12/1/2006 7:16:20 PM UTC by CoasterDiscern***
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