Voyage or El Toro which are you looking forward too the most?

Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:54 AM
Hearing the reviews of the Voyage ride at Holiday World and watching the construction of El Toro at SFGAdv. Got me to wonder which of these two are you looking forward the most to ride?

Personally, Since these are two different concepts in wooden rollercoasters. Id have to say that El Toro has a slight edge over Voyage (Ill ride Voyage at Holiwood Nights and Toro if its open in Mid-June)

The layout on Toro looks fantastic as does Voyage, but, on some forums i have read disappointment over Hades, and correct me if im wrong but, wasnt Voyage and Hades built by the same group?

Now, of course that means diddly when compairing the two rides, but I still think El Toro has the slight edge.

What do you think?

Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:16 AM
Oh dear!
Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:52 AM
Hello Skyrider7 :) Welcome to the boards...if you're new. I hope that you have a great time.

I read your post and thought of many in the past. I think that you may have started a post that is a TOS unfriendly. You may want to check them out.

From Terms Of Service..."threads that contain best... favorite... top 10... worst... versus... most... are simply not interesting to read by anyone other than the person who started the topic."

The "versus" caught my eye.

Anyways...I may be wrong.

Saturday, May 13, 2006 8:42 AM
Since ETs layout is almost like SROS at SFNE which is the best steel coaster on the planet I think ET is going to have the same ejector air. ET Is defenitely a top 5 coaster and there is going to be alot of good reveiws when it opens
Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:26 AM
And thank you Miss Cleo for that enlightening prediction
Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:56 AM
The moon card told her so. ;)

Having ridden Voyage already, I am still just as excited for night rides on it, and I am one who thinks El Toro is gonna be sa-weet as well. But the moon card is never wrong. ;)

Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:27 AM
From people I have talked to that have ridden both Hades and The Voyage, most believe that The Voyage easily is the better of the two.

I'm still very excited about El Toro, but after riding The Voyage I just don't see it being better. I mean, I've been on the New England Superman, the other Superman at SFA and, *IMO*, The Voyage is better than both of those. To me, El Toro will basically be a wood version of those rides and that's a really good thing still. The airtime is probably more powerful on the Intamin coasters, but The Voyage just has so much more airtime (19-20 spots) plus it has an intensity level that isn't matched by the Superman rides.

Who knows, maybe I'll feel differently after riding El Toro?

Some people may also be discounting the Kentucky Rumbler a little too much. This is the best year for awesome wooden coasters since 2000 and maybe ever? *** Edited 5/13/2006 4:17:06 PM UTC by Cory Patrick***

Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:32 AM

Acoustic Viscosity said:
But the moon card is never wrong.
Unless Jupiter & Venus are aligned. Duh!
Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:01 PM
I didnt mean for this to be a Voyage vs El Toro topic, i just wanted people opinions and which of the ride they are looking forward too the most.

Thanks for the Welcome :)

Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:23 PM
I look forward to both! :-)
Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:28 PM

SkyRider7 said:
wasnt Voyage and Hades built by the same group?

Yes, Voyage and Hades were both built by the Gravity Group. The engineers at the Gravity Group are the same four that were at CCI responsible for Raven, Legend, etc...

Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:58 PM
Honestly, after riding the Voyage on opening day, I don't know if ANY coaster will beat that one anytime soon. Yes, it is that good. I still would like to ride El Toro, but it just doesn't look like it has enough to beat The Voyage, though it probably will be good, and may even make my top ten.
Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:09 PM
While we're polling opinions:

For those that have ridden Voyage - is it a #1? Better than Boulder Dash or ST (in it's prime) or Raven, Legend, Phoenix, Tremors?

Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:26 PM
That's what they're saying, Andy. I'll see in 2 weeks. :)
Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:27 PM
Probably El Toro because its something different and new to the States. I have little doubt that Voyage will rock, I am just curious whether those new Pre-fab woodies are worth all the hype. El Toro definately interests me more - I suppose that would be the more accurate assessment.

I too think this is a great year in wood.

Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:51 PM
Haven't ridden either coaster but based solely on layout Voyage appears to be more my type of ride.
Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:57 PM

I don't want to get Intamin'D. ;)

Saturday, May 13, 2006 10:52 PM
My Current "Number Ones" are Hades in Wisconsin (Out and Back) and Thunderhead in Tennessee (Twister). In two weeks I'll be riding Two New Challengers, (Voyage and Kentucky Rumbler) that will vie for the Coveted Spot. All I can say is Get Ready to Ruuuuuuuumble!!! :)

Previous Number Ones

Out and Back

BEAST Kings Island 1981 - 1998

SHIVERING TIMBERS Michigan's Adventure 1998 - 2003

RAVEN Holiday World 2003 - 2005

HADES Big Chief's Mt Olympus 2005 -


WILDCAT (Defunct) Idora 1982 - 1984

CYCLONE Coney Island 1984 - 1985

GRAND NATIONAL Blackpool 1985 - 1986

COASTER Playland (Vancouver) 1986 - 1990, 1995 - 2003

TWISTER (Defunct) Elitch Gardens 1990 -1995

LEGEND Holiday World 2003 - 2005

THUNDERHEAD Dollywood 2005 -

Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:31 AM
^ Oh dear... ;)

El Toro was so pretty looking today at the park. Too bad it isn't complete yet. But I'm really looking forward to both. *** Edited 5/14/2006 5:32:34 AM UTC by bobthecoasterguy***

Sunday, May 14, 2006 2:08 AM
Having not been to Holiday World ever, :( i know I just never got around to making plans to go there.

A friend of mine suggested ride Raven and Legend first, because they are also really awesome rides and then hit Voyage.

Any suggestions for a newbe going to Holiday World?


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