Virtual Midway posts Cedar Point construction update

Posted Monday, December 16, 2002 3:33 AM | Contributed by Gemini

On Friday afternoon, as coaster enthusiasts anxiously watched via three web cams, Cedar Point topped off the world's tallest roller coaster. Extending over 400 feet into the air, the tower dominates the Cedar Point skyline and is visible for miles. Virtual Midway has several new photos and a video from the weeekend.

Link: Cedar Point Virtual Midway

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Monday, December 16, 2002 3:47 AM

Looks great, I can't wait for the announcment... which should be anyday now. Looking forward to riding this despite all of the trash talking that it has received from people who hate the fact that it is only gonna be L-TH-B.

Congrats to CP for breaking the height and speed record!


Monday, December 16, 2002 4:25 AM
I'm with you, lover. I mean come on think about it. Everyone who's giving it a hard time is really just saying, "You broke the height record, but it isn't good enough." If it breaks a major record, I think it's good enough. Then again, we'll just have to wait and see.
Monday, December 16, 2002 7:29 AM
I'm with both of you. People trashed Wicked Twister when they were building that, and it was actually a great ride! I think too many people are scared of the hight and speed of this one of a kind masterpiece! Go C.P.!!
Monday, December 16, 2002 7:34 AM
Maybe it's me, but the new ride just doesn't look like it's over 400' tall.
Monday, December 16, 2002 7:45 AM
what are you talking about? its standing half a mile to a mile BEHIND milennium force and its still at *least* 100ft higher then it...
Monday, December 16, 2002 8:07 AM

I don't know about the height of this thing. Everyone seems for sure that it is over 400-feet tall, but let's look into this a little deeper. In the second photo you can see the top of Magnum's hill, the 1st overbanked turn of MF and the second hill of MF, all of these hills are approximately 200 feet tall. If you draw a line between all of those hills you get a 200' tall horizontal plane (there is not much difference at all as a result of the distance, height, etc. from the camera to the rides). So if this holds true, then you could make a 310' foot horizontal plane at the top of MF. This 310' plane would cross the new ride at approximately the bottom of the top pyramid style support structure. This would give a guestimate for the height of each level to be approximately 45-feet tall (total height approx 360'). However, when you look at the web cam, the 4th level is the one that is slightly higher than the 200' plane previously mentioned, so this would give you more than 50' per level (total height of 400+). So could the camera be giving a false sense of height on MF? for those who think the ride is taller than 400 feet, let's hope, otherwise it looks like this thing might be several feet short of the 400-foot mark.

But at that height will anyone (but the record books) really care? - I think it's going to be a huge rush whichever height this thing turns out to be. You people in Ohio are so lucky (rollercoasters, college football and pro baseball), if it weren't so cold in the winter, I might just have to move.


Monday, December 16, 2002 8:43 AM

Wow, looks like it will be a fun ride... but damn is it ugly!! It just looks funky in that view from the front of the park (directly behind Power Tower). However, I can't wait to ride it :-)


Monday, December 16, 2002 8:51 AM

Look, it's over 400 feet. I don't get this denial. Look at the damn thing, will you?

This ride will set the record for the tallest roller coaster in the world, period.

Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - -

Monday, December 16, 2002 8:55 AM
It open's May 4, 2003
Monday, December 16, 2002 9:05 AM
Zingo, I think you were being fooled by a matter of perspective. Take a look at Webcam1. MF's first hill is "basically" right along side and at the same distance from the cam as "Dragster's" top hat. If you draw a line right across the screen from the top of MF's hill, it crosses the tower of Dragster just below the top of the seventh tower segment. In addition, counting the last pyramid segment, there are 9 segments of tower. If you divide 310 (MF's height) by 7, you get 44.28. Round that up to 45 for each of the tower segments, multiply by 9, and we get a total of 405 ft. of height before the track is added. If you add on an extra 10 ft. for the track, you get 415, the height which has been expected for quite awhile.

For at some point, there is no looking back.
-Sun-tzu Liao *** This post was edited by Glory of Kilrah on 12/16/2002. ***

Monday, December 16, 2002 10:24 AM

Oh man, that's huge. It didn't look that big when I went for Halloweekends. I can't wait to ride this giant. So what if it has only a launch top hat and brakes. I still think it will be awesome. Way to go cedar point!

Can't wait to go back next year with my father and brother.

Monday, December 16, 2002 10:33 AM
The ride looks hella eerie. Especially since the pics were taken on a cloudy day.
Monday, December 16, 2002 10:46 AM
Wow! Does it ever change the skyline at CP. I was one of the naysayers early on. But now that I've seen the pix I am psyched, and maybe even a bit nervous about riding it (but of course I will!). Question, do we know if this ride will have one long train, or several short rocket type cars? I just can't picture a train of 30+ going up that thing.

All I can say is we all better get in line now if we plan to get on it by the end of next season. CP is gonna have a record attendance year for sure! *** This post was edited by ThrillGuy on 12/16/2002. ***

Monday, December 16, 2002 10:51 AM
As everyone will recall Jeff posted that some of us would be disappointed in one aspect of this coaster, and now we can surmise that its the length. Well as far as I am concerned, shooting out of the station at 120+ MPH and going straight up the hill will be one unbelievable rush. I just got back from Knottā€™s, and we will not be disappointed with this one.

Art, Art, Art, everyone wants it, some need it, most don't want to pay for it.

Monday, December 16, 2002 2:53 PM
Does anyone have the math at how fast it would actually (physics speaking) have to be shot out of the station to make it up a hill like that and have a little left over speed?
Monday, December 16, 2002 3:05 PM
Yes, A tall thing! Always wanted one of those.

*** This post was edited by OrientExpressKid on 12/16/2002. ***

Monday, December 16, 2002 3:25 PM
Sure... Here's the really SIMPLE speed calculation. I say that because it doesn't account for friction or air resistance.

Assuming it has to be something like 20 MPH at the top, and let's just jest a little and say that the entire thing is vertical (no curve up or over the top), the calculation would be...

V(final)^2 = V(original)^2 +2(accel.)(displacement)

Final velocity is about 20 MPH or, for our use, about 9 meters per second. We're trying to find the original velocity. Acceleration is 9.8 meters/second^2 (downward), and the displacement is the number of feet we need to traverse. I'll say 420, because that's a few feet taller than S:TE is. (around 128 meters).

So... 81 = V^2 + 2(-9.8)(128)

Skipping that stupid algebra part, I'm getting a number around 51 meters a second, or somewhere around 115 miles per hour.

Don't worry - that's sort of low. I don't account for any resistance whatsoever, or the curves. I think it'd probably up closer to the 125-130 mark, and I'm not doing the math.

"Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation." - David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap

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Monday, December 16, 2002 5:36 PM
Here we go again... Seems like a physics war starts everytime someone asks about the speed of the new ride. I don't understand any of it- I don't take physics til' my senior year!

Jingle Bells. Jingle Bells, Jingle all the way! Oh what fun it'll be to ride Hulk at IOA!

Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:43 AM

I cant wait for coastermainia :)! Im getting chills just looking at it ;).

9Years working at Valleyfair :)! You know I just found out what lol means lafter over lafter lol :)...


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