Viper Restraint Pictures?

Does anyone have a close up picture of the restraints on Viper at Gadv? I have hear terrible things about them but never saw them.

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Touch The Sky

You should be able to get a good look at em in this photo... Unfortunately, it was already closed when I hit Great Adventure, so I can't comment on what they're like...

http://www.joyrides.com/sfgad/full/viper2.htm

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-FCR
I'd Rather Be Riding Roller Coasters

I dont know why but that pic makes the ride look impressive.

Viper is a pretty bad head banger. The OTSR were hard as I recall and the trains shook you around quite a bit to make sure that your head made repeated contact with them.

Viper was included in the nighttime ERT session, along with RT and Medusa, durind SpringCon '00....our first event. I thought it was innovative, if a bit rough. The pic above shows the entry into the "inverted dive"..no idea what its "official" name is for the maneuver, but it was cool. Who knows what the ride will be like when it returns....

Thanks alot FloridaCoasterRider.

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Touch The Sky

Ok that just pisses me off. Granted I haven't ridden viper, I got to get this out. I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT HEADBANGING! geez! Before B&M all the coasters were like that, I think rides that are smooth beyond belief are boring as heck. A slight bump here and there gives the ride character. Don't take this too personally, I'm not just adressing this to you and this is strictly my opinion, but my number 3 coaster is the Manhatten Express and all I hear is complaints about how horrible those togo rides are and the truth is, if you just anticipate the next turn, it can really be fun! I'm sorry it just feels so good to get that off my chest. O by the way this message in this case was addressed to Jim Fisher sorry dude.

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Milwaukee Wisconsin, we bring you beer, brats and cheese. But don't be fooled, "Milwaukee truly is a special secret getaway that I will be sure to tell my friends about!" Erin Brockevich, not to mention that we are an hour from SFGAm........

SFGAMDie Hard - your number three is Manhattan Express? Yikes...there is SO MUCH headbanging on that coaster I thought I was at a Metallica concert.

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SFGAMDie HARD said:
Ok that just pisses me off. Granted I haven't ridden viper, I got to get this out. I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT HEADBANGING! geez! Before B&M all the coasters were like that, I think rides that are smooth beyond belief are boring as heck. A slight bump here and there gives the ride character. Don't take this too personally, I'm not just adressing this to you and this is strictly my opinion, but my number 3 coaster is the Manhatten Express and all I hear is complaints about how horrible those togo rides are and the truth is, if you just anticipate the next turn, it can really be fun! I'm sorry it just feels so good to get that off my chest. O by the way this message in this case was addressed to Jim Fisher sorry dude.
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Milwaukee Wisconsin, we bring you beer, brats and cheese. But don't be fooled, "Milwaukee truly is a special secret getaway that I will be sure to tell my friends about!" Erin Brockevich, not to mention that we are an hour from SFGAm........ Well i agree with you ,but it dose shake your around alot....

Out of the 60 odd coasters I've been on (I'm not in the Coasterbuzz Club so the list on this site isn't current) I have yet to experience headbanging.

I think some people just have weaker or more sensitive bodies then others so they notice things easier.

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SFGAMDie Hard:

I just don't like coasters that leave me with a head ache for hours or that leave people bleeding when they get off. Yes, I have witnessed someone bleeding after getting off a severe head banger. I love wild woodies that throw you around, and I don't mind an occasional bruise. Looking at you track record, I don't see any coasters that I consider to be severe head bangers

As for Manhattan Express, I consider it to be a fairly mild head banger. Viper when I rode it was significantly worse, and it wan't much fun in exchange either. However, Viper doesn't make my list of the very worst. The FOFs with OTSRs were somewhat painful, but were fun in exchange for the pain. Robin: The Chiller with OTSRs was so brutal that you paid no attention to the ride. You just hurt. Robin with the new lap bars is a fantastic ride, especially at night. It is still wild and disorienting, but without the pain.

No not all coasters were like that before B&M. Most didn't have OTSRs, and most of those that did were not terrible head bangers. I personally find most Arrow loopers to not be too bad. A few coasters however were so poorly designed that they stood out from the pack. One was actually shut down for modifications due to the injuries it caused.

So has this turned into a "headbanging" thread? Everyones bodies are unique. Some people can take more than others.

*** This post was edited by dexter on 3/18/2002. ***

Sorry people, but if you haven't ridden Viper, than stay out of the conversation. And, I can confirm that the ride sucks, and is terribly painful. The harness is strange also. Instead of a regular full harness, you have half a harness and a lapbar. The only positive in Vipers favor is the steep first drop.

Laslty, there are plenty of B&M's with headbanging. Just ride Talon.
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The word "definitely" is definitely the most misspelled word on the buzz.

I too can confirm that Viper is extremely rough. My wife and I, both coaster enthusiasts, find it too rough to be enjoyable. We both like being banged around for the sake of intensity, but come on this is ridiculous. We can both ride GASM and Rolling Thunder all day long without any problem. 1 lap on Viper and we feel like we have been put through a cycle on tumble dry. I think the problem lies not only in the lousy restraints, but the slow speed through some of the inversions. The picture at the beginning of this topic shows an inversion that makes me think the train is going to stall there every time I see it. Think of a heartline twist done on a midcourse brake. Viper was purchased as a prototype ride to fit an existing hole for a low price. Ride it if you enjoy a good wallop in the head.

If you havent ridden Viper is it worth it to just go once? Not just to up your coaster count?

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Touch The Sky

B&R-The Chiller: Absolutely. Although the ride is admittedly rough, I didn't find it to be too painful. Consequently, I think that the front row of the GASM is MUCH more painful than the back row of Viper, but that's just me. Is it worth the ride to get your opinion? Sure. I'd suggest trying to get as forward in the train as possible, but that shouldn't be an issue because the lines aren't that long.

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I found Viper to be a very interesting ride, and not the slightest bit painful. And the heartline rolls were great!