Viper as Beemer?

Saturday, December 25, 2004 1:53 AM
Was pondering something...

("Pinky, Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so Brain, but what kind of rides to they have in Fabioland?")

Anyway...enough of the silly nonsense.

Was looking over some pictures of the coaster I hate the most, Viper at SFGAdv...and I pondered something. What if they tore down Viper, and it was rebuilt by B&M? Same layout, same order of inversions, same style...but built with B&M track and B&M trains? Would the ride be a lot better? Or would there have to be a few minor tweaks in order for it to be a good ride? What do you all think?

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:41 AM
I think its Pinky and the Brain Brain Brain Brain...

I loved that cartoon. I miss Tiny Toons:(.

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:47 AM
I miss Animaniacs. I just found an old Yakko stuffed doll that I won years back at Great America.
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 3:01 AM
You can still catch Tiny Toons and Animaniacs on Nicktoons (assuming you get that channel)

Viper's fine the way it is. :)

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 3:05 AM
If only David the Gnome were still on TV, everything would be right in the world.
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 4:04 AM
David the Gnome was my favorite cartoon as a kid!

As for the topic, I don't think B&M would be able to get it as small of a footprint. Also, are you talking with sand-filled rails, or without? I'm personally a fan of the sand. I know it lessens/practically-eliminates that classic B&M roar, but it seems like it makes a smoother ride as well as quieter. Maybe it's just psychological, but that what it seems like.

Did you have a particular type of beemer in mind? Invert? Floorless? Flyer? (flyer may actually be more painful because the g's are engineered for an upright rider, not lay-down orientation)

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 4:07 AM
Are either Animaniacs or Tiny Toons available on DVD?

I know one was Disney and one was Warner Bro. (just found out that Scooby Doo is a Warner Bros. license when looking @ my PKI map the other day, didn't know Hanna-Barbera was WB, always thought it was Paramount/Viacom), but I'd love to have both. Course, I still need to buy seasons 1-3 of Family Guy.

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 4:21 AM
not sure about DVD, but Animaniacs have quite a number of VHS tapes and 3 audio CDs (yes, I have all three, and love putting one on when I'm bored :) )
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:19 AM
Animaniacs on VHS but not yet on DVD?
Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL!

--Dave "I think so, Brain, but the Rockettes? Aren't they all girls?" C.

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 1:19 PM
First of all, I agree with Gonch. Viper is fine the way it is. It lets you know you're alive. ;)

But back to the topic, I see no reason why B&M couldn't recreate Viper. I think the biggest problem would be the heartline roll. There is a reason why we don't see any heartline rolls on Beemers. (except for Hydra, of course, but that's taken at 2mph) The lats for the outer seats traveling through that roll would probably be wicked.

So B&M could make Viper into something special, but it would be reversed. Smooth ride, painful heartline roll. Right now it's painful everything, smooth heartline. lol

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:08 PM
Lol, I think it would be interesting if they were to re-create it, but on a larger scale. Also, how fast is Hydra's jojo roll taken, the train is launched out of the station plus goes down a little hill, so It would probably be taken a little faster.
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:54 PM
The train is NOT launched in any way. This has been confirmed by park personnel.

Edit: click here for a discussion on this. I originally believed it to launch. I was wrong.

*** Edited 12/25/2004 8:01:06 PM UTC by dannerman***

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 5:43 PM
Sorry, I know it's Christmas, but what an incredibly stupid idea. The only fate Viper deserves is that of Drachen Fire and Shockwave.
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 6:20 PM
I am glad someone remembers David the Gnome.
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 8:59 PM
Viper has a lot of straight track... B&M would allow none of that.
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:06 PM
Do anything possible, Viper looks ugly as hell. That thing really needs to go...
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:52 PM
Thar thing is pretty as a flower compared to Iron Dragon at CP or X-Flight at GL.
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Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:05 PM
Ok to answer some of your questions...

Make Viper an B&M floorless...make it a bigger footprint, new color scheme, eliminate the heartline roll and make it into a zero-g-roll...and yes, sand in the footers...what do you think now? Would that work?

Oh and Gonch...you're crazy! Still! ;)

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Sunday, December 26, 2004 12:40 AM
Bosshawk, I even have the theme song on mp3, and a couple of old episodes I taped off tv once!

BJ4Life.. not in the footers, in the track. Yes, it makes a big difference ;)

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Sunday, December 26, 2004 1:33 PM
Buying the Family Guy DVD's seems kind of silly with the few episodes that they have created being circulated constantly on Cartoon Network and TBS. I haven't seen a "new to me" episode in a few months.

I could never remember the name of "David and the Gnome". I liked that dog/fox/whatever it was 'Swift', but that crazy lady with the dye on the See-saw kind of freeked me out.

I agree this is a silly question. Sure it would be smoother, but it would never happen. Even if it did happen, it wouldn't be near as good as a custom built B&M.

Tom says 'DOWNGRADE'.

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