Villian's chainlift. Why so loud?

Friday, December 27, 2002 4:42 PM

I forgot to ask this question when I got back from Ohio this last May. 7 months later and now I ask. :)

Why is the chainlift so freakin loud on Villian? As soon as the train climbs the hill, the sound is pretty extreme. Especially when waiting in line climbing the stairs to the station house. You could hardly hear yourself.

Any reason for this or was this just a temporary thing that was fixed later on.

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Friday, December 27, 2002 4:46 PM

(frown) Stupid g-trains....................................

Actually, I don't really know, but it's most likely something with the anti roll backs.

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Friday, December 27, 2002 5:24 PM

How many coasters do you actually stand under the lifthill on?

Chuck, who last time at CP noticed that Magnums anti rollbacks are as loud as SOB but hears nobody complaining.

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Charles Nungester.
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Friday, December 27, 2002 5:41 PM
I think you stand underneath Mean Streaks at some parts of the queue don't you? I'm pretty sure.

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*** This post was edited by CoastinCorey on 12/27/2002. ***

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Friday, December 27, 2002 5:52 PM
Maybe the chain dog just got replaced making the anit-rollbacks sound a lot louder than normal. I don't know for sure just a thought.

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Friday, December 27, 2002 5:57 PM

I noticed this year that Screechin Eagles anti rollbacks were quite loud. Then I got to looking at if from the front seat. The Dog actually catches on 1/4 inch case hardend steel bolts that are placed between two strips of steel. Quite interesting.

Chuck, who knows CCI improvised sometimes but this was different, at least to me.

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Charles Nungester.
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Friday, December 27, 2002 6:00 PM
A little off topic but S:RoS' rollbacks were VERY loud in 2000 but then calmed down in 2001 and 2002.

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Friday, December 27, 2002 7:04 PM
Raptor has always been the loudest coaster at CP every time I've been there.
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Friday, December 27, 2002 7:10 PM
All of the Gerstlauer trains are noisy on the lifts. Like PTC, there are two anti-rollback dogs on each car (so that's twelve dogs chattering away on each train). I'm not positive, but it sounds like the Gerstlauer anti-rollback pawl drops into the sawtooth more forcefully than the PTC pawls do, suggesting (based only on the sound) that the pawls might be spring-loaded (PTC's are not). As a result, the pawl would bang hard against both sides of the sawtooth notch. And the all-metal undercarriage of the Gerstlauer car makes the floor a bit like a sounding-board, and the 'glass shell of the car a bit like a resonance cavity...

My question is, why are the anti-rollbacks on Son of Beast so doggone loud? :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Friday, December 27, 2002 7:11 PM
Villains train is very loud however Lightning Racers is deafening.

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Friday, December 27, 2002 8:02 PM
Son of Beast's anti-rollbacks are only loud at the top. I just figured that they had more teeth things up there than on the rest of the lift. Then I thought maybe the anti-rollbacks run down the dip a little so the train is picking up speed while running across them. I really don't know, never sat in the front to try and check it out.

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Friday, December 27, 2002 8:23 PM

RideMan said:

My question is, why are the anti-rollbacks on Son of Beast so doggone loud?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.



They are possibly spring loaded too. But I think the biggest thing is speed. SOB gets up the hill quick. It engauges the chain at a good clip and continues about a quarter of the way up at about 15-20mph, Then it slows until near the top and then picks up speed again.

Believe me and I think you know this, For the first month after it opened, You could hear the darn thing in Papa Beast station. It also was launched over the lift at a higher rate of speed than it is now because it didn't have the booster tire right before the drop.

Chuck

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Charles Nungester.
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Saturday, December 28, 2002 12:49 AM

One of the loudest lifthills I have ever heard is on Eurostar, the Intamin/Giovanola inverter that tours the fairs in Germany.

Mechanically, the whole ride seems very no-frills which probably has a lot to do with it, but on the train it sounds like thunder. Nothing I've ridden has ever come close noise-wise.

Regards, Marcus
Coaster Kingdom: Eurostar review

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Sunday, December 29, 2002 8:40 AM
If you haven't noticed, Villian rolls out of the station and through a very fast turn around and gains a lot of speed, and hits the anti rollbacks very hard and fast. Also when the whole train is inclined on the lift the chain speeds up a lot an you'll hear the chain dogs going nuts. It's probably really bad for the for the anti rollbacks and chain dogs, but Villian is one of CCI tallest, and needs a faster lift hill to keep blocking times at a safe distance. Though this doesn't really matter with SFWoA due to there lack of ability to do anything on time. ;)

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Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:04 PM
I'd say they need to slow the lift as much as possible. But then when they inevitably stack anyways they won't have an excuse. ;)

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Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:11 PM

Charles Nungester said:

RideMan said:

My question is, why are the anti-rollbacks on Son of Beast so doggone loud?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.


They are possibly spring loaded too. But I think the biggest thing is speed. SOB gets up the hill quick. It engauges the chain at a good clip and continues about a quarter of the way up at about 15-20mph, Then it slows until near the top and then picks up speed again.

Believe me and I think you know this, For the first month after it opened, You could hear the darn thing in Papa Beast station. It also was launched over the lift at a higher rate of speed than it is now because it didn't have the booster tire right before the drop.



Uhh...that's almost as fast, if not just as fast as Millennium Force's cable lift tow...

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Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:07 PM
Disaster Transport get pretty loud, but it's inside a building.
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Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:13 PM
Obviously its going to be louder inside a building because the sound resonates. That's like starting your car when the garage door is closed. (Which I don't recommend - carbon monoxide)

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Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:03 PM

Uhh...that's almost as fast, if not just as fast as Millennium Force's cable lift tow...



I did not say that SOB climbs the hill as fast as Millie, I said it gets a quarte of the way up it at a good clip. Remember, SOB has a 57ft drop prior to the lift and it originally had to be launched over the lift at a higher speed because it would valley in the horshoe untill they added the booster tire before the drop.

Chuck

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