Vekoma Invertigo

Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:37 AM
According to Roller Coaster Database, HangOver at Liseberg, the first Vekoma Invertigo, was supposed to be launched by LIMs or LSMs, instead of the lift. If Invertigos were originally made with LIM/LSM launches, how would they be different? Would they still have two spikes? Would lifts be on both spikes, or LIM/LSM?

Also, why are the spikes on Boomerang and Invertigo shuttles "tilted" so that they meet at the top?
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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:48 AM
I had never heard that, but it would be interesting. I had hoped that the DejaVu's would be launched up the back spike to start the ride.

I assume that the spikes meet at the top because it is cheaper to build only one supporting tower than two.

Mike

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:59 AM
I believe the LIMs were going to be used as lifts (similar to how DCA's California Screamin' operates). It wouldn't really be launched, and would actually feel pretty similar to what is there now. Yes, there would be two towers.

Vekoma also intended Deja Vu to operate this way but the LIM technology wasn't ready at the time SF wanted the ride.

-Nate

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:04 AM
HangOver was indeed planned to be LIM-lifted. But it was not designed to be launched. Vekoma thought about an idea to have a frictionless lift to avoid the mechanical problems found on their Boomerangs.

It wouldn´t be Vekoma , if this nice idea would have actually worked. Apart from the non-working lift, the cobra roll element was faulty as well. So the lift AND the cobra roll were dismantled, shipped back to Vekoma and everything had to be completely re-designed. When the ride was finally up and running, it was exactly one year delayed! In the meantime, Liseberg installed a S&S tower. (I wonder if the bill was sent to Vekoma.)

Anyway, its a pity that the ride is now being dismantled. Its the funniest Vekoma-experience around.

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:25 AM

coasterdude318 said:


Vekoma also intended Deja Vu to operate this way but the LIM technology wasn't ready at the time SF wanted the ride.


So they installed lifts for a timely reliable opening. ;)

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:53 AM
I presume that the spikes meeting at the top accomplishes two things. First it reduces the footprint of the ring resulting in it taking less space. Second, the structure and foundations for the two spikes are combined making the structure both stiffer and cheaper.
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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:18 PM
Also, the catwalk structures for the lifts are connected at the top. Maybe they are tilted so they can be connected with a shorter catwalk.
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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:41 PM
The Deja-Vu class boomerangs were never designed to have magnetic propulsion. What you see is what you get, and they are a pretty damn good engineered ride.

It was bad timing that Vekoma filed bankruptcy before they opened. Its little known info but Premier Rides helped SF Engineering get the Chicago coaster up and running. I think Arrow helped the one at MM, but I am not 100%. Not sure who finished the one in Atlanta, but never the less, they are operating at what they were designed to do.

There will be more.......

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:47 PM
Is Vekoma arround or not? It seems like they are still building rides Agent Johnson. I belive that they finished up the 4 GIBs at the Six Flags Parks and WBMW. If they are not how come their is new Vekoma rides coming in to play?

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:51 PM
AJ, you normally seem so reasonable, LOL...my thought about the *problem* with Deja Valleying was that the bottom of the spike needed to be a little more *rounded* with a slower transition from vertical to horizontal. It certainly does pull considerable g forces, and is very fun and intense. But for cold weather to cause enough of a problem to prevent them from running, I'd be hard-pressed to call DV "well-engineered". Of course, the boomerang element was never my particular favorite either, so what do I know...;)

The should be more DVs, I just found that the standard Invertigo provided a similar ride experience with MUCH greater reliability...

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Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:20 PM
I'm pretty sure Vekoma *did* intend LIM lifts on the Deja Vu coasters. Or, I should say, they at least intended on it while the idea was in development.

Remember when Vekoma listed the upcoming products "Giant Boomerang" and "Giant Invertigo" on their website? Under the specs, Vekoma specifically listed using LIMs to power the ride (as lifts). I don't know how early in development that was abandoned (probably as soon as SF placed the order and demanded them for '01) but even after the LIM lift failed on the regular Invertigo, Vekoma intended on using the idea for their Giant Invertigos.

-Nate

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