Vekoma / Arrow

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:06 AM
Hi,

I always wonder if there's more connection between Arrow and Vekoma than the similar looking rails.
Both companies have obviously built coasters prominently featuring double-corkscrews... but apart from that, there's also a lot of differences, e.g. did Arrow ever built a Boomerang, an SLC or a LIM shuttle?

The more I think about it, the less connection I can find between the two... is there one at all?

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:09 AM
I think Arrow used to make th trains for vekoma coasters before Vekoma started doing it all themselves.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:33 AM
The ninja at SFSL was built by Vekoma, and has Arrow trains.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:25 AM
Arrow does not ( has not ) made Suspended Looping Coasters or Boomerang coasters. Both of those are Vekoma inventions, however Arrow did produce shuttle coasters, such as the one seen here:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery313.htm?Picture=1

Arrow has yet to build a roller coaster that utilizes LIM/LSM technology, but their website mentions that they are able to. Also, even though both Vekoma and Arrow produce suspended coasters, Arrow makes the trains for both companies.

And just to make sure there isn't any confusion, this is a suspened coaster built by Arrow. The trains are able to swing freely from side to side, and this type of coaster is not capable of inversions:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery73.htm?Picture=1

This is a Suspened Looping Coaster built by Vekoma. The trains are NOT able to swing freely from side to side, which allows the coaster to have inversions:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery489.htm?Picture=4


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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:03 PM
Vekoma is a generic version of arrow. Jus like that one company (who no longer makes coasters) who build gollath is a generic version of B&M.
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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:20 PM

Arrow has yet to build a roller coaster that utilizes LIM/LSM technology, but their website mentions that they are able to. Also, even though both Vekoma and Arrow produce suspended coasters, Arrow makes the trains for both companies.


Why would they build a LIM/LSM coaster when they have thrust air technology? :-)

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:50 PM
in some places the thrust air technology can be inefficient and more costly then some other areas... well i think so anyway

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:15 PM

coastermadness said:
Vekoma is a generic version of arrow. Jus like that one company (who no longer makes coasters) who build gollath is a generic version of B&M.


Nope, think again. Vekoma just leased the rights to the track design from Vekoma, and has (had) a contract with Arrow to manufacture some trains for their coasters. As for Giovanola (the company that made Goliath) isn't "generic" at all, where as both Intamin and B&M basically branched out from them. Giovanola still manufactures the track for all B&M coasters (hence the same track design of Goliath and other B&M coasters).

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*** This post was edited by Rctycoon2k 6/10/2003 7:17:19 PM ***
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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:25 PM
Isn't Ninja from SFoG also using Arrow trains on a Vekoma coaster? Pretty sure I remember them as having some sort of Arrow ID on them....

edit: come to think of it, doesn't KG's Vekoma *also* use Arrow trains...no, NOT Kevin Garnett's...;)
*** This post was edited by rollergator 6/10/2003 7:26:29 PM ***

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:24 PM
They should replace all the Arrow trains on Vekomas, if you've ever been on a Vekoma sitdown with a train made by Vekoma, their smooth as glass while Arrow trains on Vekomas are rough as hell.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:08 PM
Bill,

To the best of my knowledge... Ninja is all Vekoma. I hears people say the trains are by Arrow all the time. To date I have seen no irrefutable evidence that this is the case.

BTW the operator's manual (written by the park) makes no mention of Arrow in its text.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:01 PM
I believe Whirlwind at Knoebels is a combo.
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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:08 PM
actually, IFan, Whirlwind is a triple-combo...arrow/huss trains....with the Vekoma track ;)

although can ya really count that?

and while im at it, just curious, Huss is now fully independent right?

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*** This post was edited by vacoasterfreak 6/11/2003 12:09:03 AM ***

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