Upcharge Attractions; Why does only CP do it right

Monday, October 8, 2001 5:08 PM
Now y'all know I'm NOT a Po!nter, but this has been bugging me since August. When i went to SFGAdv I noticed that they had at least three upcharge attractions. Three "High Profile" attractions @ that (Slingshot, Turbo Force, Skycoaster). Out of all the parks I've been to with UCAs, only CP does not require park admission to ride the things. Anybody know why no other parks do this?
lata,
jeremy
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Monday, October 8, 2001 5:15 PM
Cause they can make even more money by making people pay for the park and the ride.  It also is easier on your feet cause you don't have to walk to another area to ride it.
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Monday, October 8, 2001 5:25 PM
I believe that Valleyfair does not require park admission to ride upcharge attractions. Perhaps all the Cedar Fair parks? I think it might be a SF thing to require park admission to get to the upcharge attractions. I've been to SF Georgia, and they required park admission to ride the upcharge attractions.

Or am I completely wrong?

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Monday, October 8, 2001 5:41 PM
I don't think they have the resort set up like CP. I'm sure a lot of people who arrive later to the resorts don't feel like entering the park. It is a good way to make money that would otherwise be lost. Maybe because most other parks do not have this setup is why. Good Question.
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Monday, October 8, 2001 6:18 PM
I'd say Joe is right, it's all about the resort. I remember someone from the park telling me once that a ridiculous percentage of people staying on-point constitute the guests at Challenge Park and Soak City. Makes sense to me.

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Monday, October 8, 2001 7:15 PM
I think that the geography of many parks makes it difficult to separate upcharge attractions from the rest of the park.  Also, without CPs resort setup there probably isn't much market for upcharge attractions without the rest of the park.
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Monday, October 8, 2001 8:13 PM

HarKarVolBasTre said:
I believe that Valleyfair does not require park admission to ride upcharge attractions. Perhaps all the Cedar Fair parks? I think it might be a SF thing to require park admission to get to the upcharge attractions. I've been to SF Georgia, and they required park admission to ride the upcharge attractions.
Or am I completely wrong?

no KBF makes you enter the park to ride Vertigo i think... but i dont know if they have the room to put a seperate area for pay rides... also since they only have one...

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Monday, October 8, 2001 8:50 PM
The Skyscraper is inside Dorney's gates as well, so it's not a CF thing.

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Monday, October 8, 2001 9:09 PM
Valleyfair is the only park which follows Cedar Point's formula I think.  Which makes it interesting considering they don't have any hotels.
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Tuesday, October 9, 2001 7:45 AM
...And Cedar Point put their climbing wall inside the park, not out in Challenge Park with the other stuff. But then, the climbing wall is $6, which is more in line with the cost of a midway game than with the cost of an extreme ride. Hmmm...Maybe they should give you a little plush toy for pushing the button on the top of the wall, then it would be a midway game......

So, Jeremy, you been reading Gary Slade's (Amusement Today) editorials again? :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Tuesday, October 9, 2001 2:35 PM
It's about paying for the ride, not mass profit.
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Tuesday, October 9, 2001 3:56 PM
Actually Dave, I've never seen a copy of Amusement Today. Why was there a recent article or something? This was just something on my mind.
jeremy

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Tuesday, October 9, 2001 7:52 PM
The editorial in the September issue was entitled, "How about a return to Pay One Price?" in which publisher Gary Slade talks about the origins of P-O-P at SFOT, and in that story he says:

...Today we still have pay one price admission, but we also have extra charges for upcharge rides that are deemed too low capacity for the theme park's POP plan.
I'm not against the upcharge ride, I like the thrills and entertainment they provide, I'm just against multiple rides being within the boundaries of the theme park. That helps to create the demise of the POP concept and what it originally stood for.
Hats off to parks like Cedar Point in Sandusky, Ohio, for placing their upcharge rides outside the boundaries of the amusement facility and grouping them together in an area called Challenge Park.


I like the way Slade thinks. Back in April he expressed his amazement at high prices in the park, particularly at the parking toll plaza, and even suggested that parks should roll the parking price back to $1 and see if it resulted in a per-cap spending increase. Six Flags responded by jacking parking prices up to $9 or $10. :(

--Dave Althoff, Jr
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Tuesday, October 9, 2001 8:35 PM
$10 parking. The first time I saw that, I said "I ought to just turn around! Screw these greedy bastards!". But, on the other side of that booth stood Raging Bull and Viper, and to the window I went.  If they can get it, they will. And we just keep driving in.

God bless most of America.

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