Universal Studios construction and Knott's rehabs in the news

Posted Tuesday, March 13, 2001 3:55 AM | Contributed by James Disney

WestCoaster has been running non-stop to keep everyone informed with all the latest news and updates for Southern California theme parks. As the busy summer season approaches, we're tracking construction projects as Universal Studios Hollywood wraps up the construction on their new kiddie play area. We've also been visiting Knott's Berry Farm as they're rehabbing Montezooma's Revenge. Lots of interesting photos!

Link: WestCoaster.net

Tuesday, March 13, 2001 9:14 AM
I think Knott's needs a whole new coaster, not an old one fixed up
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Tuesday, March 13, 2001 9:58 AM
Well, Knott's should be getting a new coaster in 2002 if everything holds together as planned. Most of it counts on when they get Windjammer removed... as soon as that happens, things should be ready to roll... it'll be nice to have a new coaster at Knott's. (BTW, contract has been signed and the coaster is coming... this is NOT rumor.)

As for fixing up an old coaster... it's a yearly rehab... are they supposed to just let their coasters fall into disrepair?? I'm personally extremely glad that Knott's (and Cedar Fair as a whole) takes such great care of it's rides. Especially classic coasters like Montezooma's Revenge.

JD *** This post was edited by James Disney on 3/13/2001. ***
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Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:15 AM
Okay Jim, what kind of coaster? I think it's a copy of Talon. How far off am I?

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Oh my freekin' head!
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Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:19 AM
Does anyone know when this rehab will be done? I'm going over at the begining of April and am hoping to ride it.

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Get ready to fly over Six Flags Oh..er I mean Six Flags Worlds of Adventure this summer with X-Flight!
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Tuesday, March 13, 2001 11:35 AM
Is Montezuma still without OTSR?
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Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:00 PM
Yes, Montezooma's Revenge still runs WITHOUT over-the-shoulder harness restraints. Just a lap bar and additional safety belt! :)
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Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:08 PM
Cedar Fair shure knows how to treat their riders!

Now if they could only take a hint about their woodies...

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Jes
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Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:28 PM
I doubt it'll be a Talon clone since it's going to be an Intamin from all accounts. My source at Knott's (who hasn't been wrong yet) said that it's something we haven't really seen yet... so I'm keeping my ear to the ground to see and as soon as I find out for sure, I'll get it on the site. But, as much as I'd LOVE a Talon clone, we won't be getting one too soon. :(
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Tuesday, March 13, 2001 5:01 PM
I’ve yet to see anything from Cedar Fair that would warrant either appraisement or condemnation from me. The renovations and purchases have been fairly normal with such an acquisition as the Farm. Since this coaster will, technically, be the first installation by Cedar Fair we’ll just have to wait and see what comes about from it. I suspect that the coasters will be slow in coming what with the company set on expanding the boundaries and increasing parking capacity over the coming years. The Farm is their only year-round park after all… regardless of the small stature and building restrictions.

If the duration between coaster procurements remains constant there may be a total of three (more or less) before the end of the decade. Following the prototype (Intamin’s version of a Flying Dutchman I wager) next year it will be more than likely that Intamin will be the company of choice for the supposed hyper that will make its inaugural season in 2006. 2010 will be the rigid inverted everyone has been salivating for… but don’t expect something on par with Raptor. As with the previous hyper the inverted coaster will be very short… but sweet. The “big guns” will still be up at the Mountain however.

Though the investitures will be small and few (coaster-wise) I’m sure the augmentation of the Farm will be sure and steady over the forthcoming years. I still remain convinced that the park will remain the “whipping boy” of the company with the proceeds being invested elsewhere than over here. Perhaps Cedar Fair will splurge on over a dozen thrill rides like Paramount has recently done for Great America some time this decade… or the next.
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Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:16 AM
What BS Sokeman. Knott's will move ahead shortly and will no doubt have a great ride installed before 2006. It wasn't until the 80's that SFMM got their butts in gear and expanded with rational thought. Knott's has land and a ride on Supreme Scream will point that out. Just look for the grassy areas around the park. Knott's owns all of it with the exception of the Fire Station on Western. That could be moved at the expense of Knott's for a couple million opening a chunck of land on which to build. Behind the Raddison, they could install a parking structure for visitors and free up even more land. The biggest expansion hurdle will be a question of Orange County. Will they allow CF to close Western or will expansion require the installation of a pedestrian walkway over Western, or construction of a vehicle tunnel. In either case, the park size could theoretically double and it no doubt will. Pehaps that will take place by 2006.

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Oh my freekin' head!
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Wednesday, March 14, 2001 6:16 AM
Jim Disney... Intamin Flying?

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Oh my freekin' head!
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Friday, March 16, 2001 7:05 AM
Sokeman said: "The Farm is their only year-round park after all… regardless of the small stature and building restrictions."

Y'know... Knott's doesn't face many restrictions. More internal really. The only problem with the neighbors is the noise.... fill the rails with sand and you're set. That's why they ran Windjammer recently, to make sure that what they're installing will not be louder than Windjammer (since it was at the upper levels of the EIR's sound restrictions). Apart from those issues, they are allowed to build ANYTHING they want, as tall as they want (within FAA guidelines of course). The city has no choice but to approve anything that falls withing the acceptable standards of the Environmental Impact Report for the area. If you don't believe me, go read Buena Park's zoning laws for the AR zone.

As for next year's coaster, I only know that it's an Intamin. That much has been confirmed to me by some very reliable people in Management at Knott's. But they told me that basically nobody knows what Knott's is installing right now other than Jack Falfas (good luck getting him to say anything) and the rest of Cedar Fair's upper management. However, the idea of an Intamin flyer would be fun. The idea of a B&M flyer is even more fun though...

JD
http://www.westcoaster.net
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