Two New 4D Layouts...

Tuesday, January 1, 2002 9:59 AM
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but the latest issue of First Drop shows two new layouts for Arrow 4D coasters.  One is called Delerium, and one is called Quantum.

Delerium's layout is as follows...
At the top of the lift there is a little bunny hop as on X, only maybe a little larger, then a drop which is not near vertical.  Then comes a giant Raven turn, like on X.  Next is a camelback/half flip.  That is where the similiarities to X end.  After the hill is another raven turn, followed by what appears to be another camelback/half flip, and then a final 180 degree turn into the brake run.
The ride seems to be about the length and size of X, with basically the turnaround and the second raven turn swapped.

The other design shown is Quantum...
This starts out the same as the others with the lift, hop, and drop (again not vertical).  It then goes through a giant camelback/halflip element, followed by a giant turnaround as seen on X, only maybe a little more inclined.  Next is a regular camelback, and then another half flip/camelback, and a final hop up into the brake run. 
This is a much simpler design, basically out and back, and seems to be shorted than the rest.

In the article, they also talk about a launched 4D that Arrow has planned, in which the seats on both sides rotate seperately, instead of together.  It doesn't say whether that is one of the two shown in the pictures.  They do say however that, it would be cheaper and take up less space, and that "A park is already very interested in this ride", reffering to the launched version.

It certainly sounds like the years ahead are going to exciting for Arrow and their new hit.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 11:35 AM
Very nice. Why did they suddenly drop the vertical drop? Hope X wasn't the first and last to feature that...
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 11:40 AM
Does First Drop have a website or something showing the designs???? If it does POST THEM.
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 11:44 AM
I hope the newer 4ds have the vertical drop, because the dive looks awesome and I don't think the dive would be as cool if the drop wasn't vertical.
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 11:44 AM
First Drop does have a website;

www.coasterclub.org

BUT, it has not yet been updated with the most recent edition of First Drop.

FloridaCoasterRider described the layouts pretty well.

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 11:46 AM
First Drop is the European Coaster Club's magazine.  There is a website, but it's not updated that often, and even when it is it doesn't show most articles in the magazine.  I would scan them in, but my scanner seems to be broken...  And there may be something not quite legal about doing that as well.
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 11:47 AM
Where are these 4d layouts?
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 12:02 PM

FloridaCoasterRider said:
...the latest issue of First Drop shows two new layouts for Arrow 4D coasters.

Good morning :)
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 12:24 PM
SFMM specifically asked for the most "extreme" version of Arrow's 4D. So in a sense, if another park wanted a vertical drop, all they'd have to do is ask that it be built. Some parks may not want a drop that extreme or that tall.

The same options exist for the Arrowbatic.
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 1:23 PM
I guess SFMM really was out to become the Xtreme park after all!

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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 2:20 PM
X's layout sounds more exciting to me than Delerium's and Quantum's, but I guess I'll never know which is better until I ride them, so hopefully a park will build those two.
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 3:27 PM
I think that Arrow chose to keep their layouts in the out-and-back fashion becuase it would be a little more complicated to mauever such a large train through a twisting layout because of all the supports. I wonder when we'll see the first complete inversion on a 4D and what it would look like :)
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 3:30 PM
Is there a picture in the magazine, if so can someone who has it scan it and post it?
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Tuesday, January 1, 2002 6:47 PM
If anyone could scan and email me those layout's I would be extremly greatful. Thanks for the great descriptions though!
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Sunday, January 6, 2002 9:12 PM
Arrow says that there is already a suiter for the launched version of the 4D.......COULD THIS BE CEDAR POINTS BIG REVENGE ON MM?
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Sunday, January 6, 2002 9:15 PM
Who do you think runs CP, a bunch of nine-year-olds?

If CP got a 4D, it would be to boost attendance and compete with local parks, not to get "revenge on MM".

-Jeff

http://americacoasters.com

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Sunday, January 6, 2002 10:23 PM

xbombman said:
Who do you think runs CP, a bunch of nine-year-olds?

Ha! That's hilarious! It's about time someone had the guts to say it so bluntly. :)


Hmmm. New 4-D layouts? Sounds like Arrow plans on running with this one. Good for them! I only hope a few years down the line that the "Arrow is the best, the rest suck" talk doesn't get as annoying as the "B&M is the best" talk does now.


Can't wait to see where more of these 4-D's pop up at. Let's all cross our fingers and chant "east coast, east coast, east coast"

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Monday, January 7, 2002 10:02 AM
X is the best steel coaster I have ever had the luck to ride.  I don't see why parks wouldn't want the vertical drop, though.  Its fun as hell, and as far as I could tell the public loves the whole thing.  The first drop is kinda the centerpiece of the whole thing.  I would think that when park reps ride this thing they really will want to keep the vertical drop on newer versions. 

Of course, the newer 4d's may not be near as big as X, and therefore may not be able to accomodate a huge vertical drop.  I'd imagine we are going to be seeing lots of these bad boys in the 80 - 150 ft. range coming soon. 

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Monday, January 7, 2002 4:29 PM
So there really is a launched 4-d coming out?  There was a disscussion over at Danimation about a launched 4-d coming to a new theme park in Mississippi.  Very intresting!!
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Monday, January 7, 2002 6:21 PM
a launched 4D??  look at how much trouble they had with supporting the weight of the trains with a conventional lift....now add the force of a luanch start, haha :)  Arrow needs to make sure that the new support system on the train is failproof before they try to launch those things....
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