Two-Abreast B&Ms?

Friday, October 26, 2001 12:24 PM
Are there any?  I was just wondering because in a roller coaster book it said "B&M used this unusual 4 abreast seating which would show up on nearly everone of them."  This book was rather outdated or the was taking in some sort of past tense.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:27 PM
When they said unusual, they may have meant unusual to the coaster industry, since B&M were the first to use 4 across seating.

From what I know, there are no 2 abreast B&M, but I've been wrong before...

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"They were rong, very rong." -Coolbrojoe

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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:30 PM
Yeah, thanks Intamin2k, that's what I meant.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:34 PM
It's probably because some B&Ms are 8-across (Dive Machines).
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COOK PASS BABTRIDGE
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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:46 PM
2-across B&M? What about Psyclone?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:47 PM
Actually, the first 4-across seating was Intamin's Space Diver model, dubbed Z-Force at SFoG, later named Flashback when it traveled to SFMM.  It WAS designed by B&M, but that was when they worked fopr Intamin...or so I understand...
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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:48 PM
Wrong B&M does have 2 accross seating. Just on one coaster Psyclone at SFMM, Psyclones trains are B&M the only wooden coaster trains B&M has produced, and the only 2 abreast cars.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:55 PM
yea but that is trains.  I think he means coasters with origional b&M designs
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Friday, October 26, 2001 2:13 PM
It's not really a mystery!  B&M have used 4-across on most of their rides, the two with 8-across being the exception.  Did the book say actually anything about 2-across?
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COOK PASS BABTRIDGE
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Friday, October 26, 2001 2:20 PM
I thought Morgan made the Psyclone trains, was this before?
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Drive to theme parks for the food, stay for the coasters!! Knott's Fried Chicken
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Friday, October 26, 2001 2:28 PM
Z-Force was originally at SFGAm in 1986 before SFOG, which I believe was the first 4-across coaster.  This was before B&M existed.
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Acrophobia--High Alititude Attitude
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Friday, October 26, 2001 3:37 PM
Morgan made the Collosus trains on the Non backwards side.  They are very Comfortable.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 6:38 PM
Well B&M are the people who really brought 4 wide seating into the broad market and I personally love 4 ide sewating it is a inovation that should have seen incresed usgae long ago!
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All at once the ghosts come back reeling you in now.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 6:48 PM
Well as long as we're on the topic of Psyclone trains, are they comfortable?

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-Defender of Shockwave

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Friday, October 26, 2001 8:41 PM
They have a good backrest :) If it had different trains, the ride may be a lot rougher, but then who knows.
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Drive to theme parks for the food, stay for the coasters!! Knott's Fried Chicken
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Friday, October 26, 2001 10:41 PM
All I know is that I pulled my back muscle on Psyclone so I didn't get to enjoy the trains. But from what I remember they were fairly comfortable almost like the Morgan trains.

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Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:40 AM
B&M (or Boring and Meaningless, as I call them) have also done wooden trains for a coaster at Blackpool Pleasure beach, or from what at least I had heard.

Its easy to get a Giovanola and B&M invert confused.... unless you see the trains in which Gio use 2 abreast seating

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Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:30 AM
Another reason why B&M is cool. 4-across seats helps ride capacity and when I go to a park with my 2 friends 1 of the 3 of us don't have to ride alone.
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Millennium Force....it has its ups and downs.
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Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:45 AM
B&M designed all and any four abreast coasters, with the exception of Intamin/Giovanola's Eurostar Inverted. Psyclone is the only wooden graced by B&M. B&M worked for Intamin originally, but broke off in the late 80's then debuted Iron Wolf in 1990. B&M created four across and the box-track, which they took with them after they broke off from Intamin.
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The Original Duke From Danimation!
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Saturday, October 27, 2001 12:04 PM
Hey duke, where'd you learn that from? I want proof. Who said B&M designed the box track? Who said B&M designed Batman: The Escape? Who said B&M designed Z-Force/Flashback? Who said B&M designed Shockwave? Who said B&M designed La Cobra?
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