Where you sit may have an effect, I know I usually try to go towards the front on Twister, usually seems to be smoother, as is the case with alot of woodies out there.
For years, being a big PTC fan, until I rode Lightning Racers this past summer. Seems those MF trains are much better, read somewhere they have closer tolerances, etc. and are just more the Rolls Royce of woodie trains.
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I remember reading that they worked on the turn by the campground over the winter, and that the change in the wood would be noticeable. Did they change the banking of it, or did they just change the support structure?
^J7G3: Yeah the MFs have closer tolerances, in fact I've heard the tolerances are so close that none of Hershey's ever made it around the track the first time. But steel-like smoothness isn't really what I look for in a wood coaster, twisting or otherwise. (OK, maybe on El Toro.)
On an interesting note, Phoenix didnt make it back to station on its first run filled with people. It got stuck under the breaking area and 2 ops had to go push it to get it moving back to station. That only happened once though.
However, I also haven't ridden since last summer so maybe it was just "first-ride" excitement again? ;)
I was at Knoebels all afternoon today and I thought Twister was running about the same as last year. The front seat was the smoothest, and while there was a little shaking, the only really nasty spots were the turn into the helix (you can see the track isn't smoothly rounded there) and to a lesser degree the turn-around after the exit from the helix. The back seat was rough, and I might even compare it to the Hershey Wildcat. So in summary, ride the front seat, unless you want to watch the newbies in front of you duck under the crossovers :)
By the way, even the normally-smooth Phoenix has one shaky spot, the turn-around after the double-up. I had a couple of rides today where the whole turn-around, from seat 3, felt and sounded like some of the wheels weren't making contact, as if the car never recovered from the huge airtime you get coming out of the double-up. *** Edited 4/30/2007 12:42:45 AM UTC by Jim S.***
Twister is a powerful ride- no doubt about that- but rough? I don't get those claims. It's not an out-and-back like the Phoenix- it has a lot of high-speed turns and dramastic drops- so it's going to be a very aggressive ride. But I don't think that makes it a rough ride. The defunct SFMM Psyclone and Hercules? Now those were rough rides.
This may be of interest to some- the "campground" turn on Twister (the one that zooms under the structure for the first turnaround after the main drop) looks to have been completely rebuilt during the off season. Not only is the track new but it seems as though a lot of additional bracing has been added, making this part of the ride feel completely new again. I could be wrong, but I think this is the first section of the ride to receive major attention since it was built in 1999? If so, that says a lot about the team that brought the coaster to life!
Is that like dramatic and fantastic rolled into one?
My feeling is that John F. designed Twister alot like his neighbors in Sunbury build rides (lots of twisty turns)...and we know what trains seem to work best on those kinds of layouts. Twister is *aggressive* by almost any standards, and the "roughness claims" almost always seem to locate the back of the train as the *sore spot*...kinda reinforces my belief that the PTCs aren't the greatest for the ride.
I've never had a problem with the rear of the train. If anything, the second row is "worse" than anything else. And even that's nothing unbearable.
P.S. Do we need another category for wooden coasters that, unlike KG's, are more *compact*, and less *twisty*?
At least Dubya says enough silly/stupid/idiotic/WTF? things to fill a "page-a-day" desk calendar every year... one that I happen to buy every year!
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