Tsunami now a sensative word?

Mamoosh said:
Please check the lists...and then explain to me why it is perfectly acceptible to name a ride after the same types of natural disasters that appear on those lists and yet 'tsunami' is unacceptible.

Sure, I can think of a few...

1) The tsunami just happened

2) More people died in this single event--that we know of thus far--than died in all of those top ten tragedies combined and multiplied by ten.

3) Cuz coasters don't blow 100 MPH winds, but wavepools (the renamed attractions in question) definitely sweep water over you

Next question?

-'Playa

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1] I understand. And so what happens when another Xenia, Ohio or Oklahoma City tornado outbreak happens?

2] Go back and recheck those lists...you're wrong here.

3] Fine. What about Clementon's woodie?

1) If one out of every four people in Oklahoma city died in the twister, you'd be able to compare the tragedies. And I bet there'd be a lot more 'rational' decisions made.

2) You linked to a different page first time around. Cheater.

But even on the all-time greatest disaster list, the disaster is already close to if not #6 and the worst in roughly 15 years. And these folks got hit by giant waves. Wouldn't you be careful what you named a wavepool too? Do you really still need to ask why?

3) Wouldn't somebody have to buy the park first?

Have any more statistical minions for me to kill?
*Closes eyes, fully expecting Gogo when I open them*

-'Playa

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Ya know, I don't believe in being hateful, distasteful or even rude.

But why should the world cater to the few? Im talking. If every little thing is going to be so sensitively taken, Why should the majority even give it any creedence whatsoever?

Tsunami, A giant destructive wave, It doesn't say, NATURE, MASS MURDERER

Chuck, totally sick of all the PC.

super7* said:
This is the worst tragedy that i know of in my lifetime. 150,000 lives were ended in one event.
Unless you are not aware of current events, the name tsumani brings images to your mind of the horrible ending to these peoples lives. This is not the kind of image an amusement park or water park want to create. This is not necessarily being done to be "politically correct". Most places don't want an attraction reminding people of mass loss of lives.
*** Edited 1/6/2005 8:44:54 PM UTC by super7****

Im sure your having nightmares about something that effects you very little.

Yes, Give to those who need it, Grieve for the people who lost their lives/ Tsunami is a word, Not a race, religion, sexual preference or anything else derogatory.

Chuck

OMG, Lets rename VOLCANO, Earthquake, Tornados, Whirlwinds and even BEAST

Playa - I have not edited my post. Those links [World disasters, US disasters] have been there from the start. Don't piss on me because you didn't check both and made an incorrect statement.

As for our opinions, obviously our mileage varies. And if you think for one second that I'm being insensitive then consider this: I work in the travel industry and an agent I know is among the missing in Thailand. I have been affected by this directly. Have you?

Oh, and could you address my Clementon Park Tsunami question directly instead of evading it, please?

Charles Nungester said:
OMG, Lets rename VOLCANO, Earthquake, Tornados, Whirlwinds and even BEAST

Not to mention replace Twister and Earthquake at Universal-rides that actaully simulate disasters (floods too)!

Who's evading it? Somebody who owns the park would have to make the decision. How much more clear can that be?

If a big corporation like SF wasn't gonna put extra work into SFWOA, you can't expect a small park to rush around changing signage for a park they're trying to sell, can you?

And the first time I clicked on both links, I got the same page on-screen. So? Already addressed it once I got the right screen. It's number six and rising among the all-time worst tragedies...to say nothing of the fact that this is a tragedy in the 21st century. Medical science is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was 10 years ago, much less twenty or 90 and the body count's still as high as it is.

As I was saying--new points, please. And where's Gogo?

-'Playa

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Well I checked the links as soon as they were posted to make sure they both worked, so I guess you need to learn how to click on links better. And don't get angry at me for your shortcomings.

And its fine by me if you don't want to give your opinion on what Clementon should do. You're still evading the question.

As someone who has been directly affected by the tradgedy in Asia I can rationalize the difference between a natural disaster and an amusement park or water ride named Tsunami. And as I've already said twice I have no problem with a park changing a name if they feel its in their best interest to do so. But I am not offended by those names one bit.

I realize I wasting my time here. One thing I [and a lot of people here] have realized is that in Playa's eyes anyone on the other side of his position is automatically wrong.

Here is a question for Playa: If parks need to change the names of all rides having to do with Tsunamis, why hasn't overwhelming public pressure forced Busch Gardens to tear down Escape from Pompeii? Common sense says that a ride themed directly around an event that killed thousands of people is inherently more offensive than rides whose names coincidentally are the same as an event that recently killed thousands. If all of this is because the Tsunami is so recent, then would it be okay 2000 years from now to theme a ride completely around this event???

Maybe because 150,000 people didn't die in a volcano blast last month? Hello?

And considering there were dark rides simulating the Frisco 'Earthquake' by 1960 if not earlier, yeah I'd say a few decades make a difference.

A short skirt does not make you Gogo--but thanks for playing.

-CO

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I think all coasters should be named after cute furry animals, and fruit. Couple good examples these coasters of death and disaster could change their name to are "Fuzzy Bunny's Scurry", and the "Banana Jamma". All these rides named after terrible disasters should heed my advice asap, to avoid lawsuits over their insensitive names, like Tornado (I feel dirty just saying it).

I am impressed with how you are skirting around all of the questions you have no answer for. My question was, how are rides that have nothing to do with an event more offensive than rides themed around specific events? People are killed by natural disasters all the time, are the people killed in these disasters less important than the people killed in major ones, and thus don't merit any changes in the way we think or talk? Again, since you agree that it is okay to have a Pompeii themed ride today, then will it be okay for people 2000 years in the future to build a ride about the recent Tsunami?

I think a lot of you are having the wrong discussion. I doubt very much that the use of "tsunami" has anything to do with being politically correct. I doubt it's an emotional issue at all. To me it seems like a business decision. I wouldn't want to own something associated with the death of tens of thousands of people, even in a casual manner.

As for Silver Bullet, the only thing I can't figure out is why you'd name a ride something that a lot of people associate with beer that smells worse than urine.

Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog

It's like naming a new car the Ford Ebola.

Sure, you could do it--but why would you wanna?

And Moosh, exactly what question am I 'evading?' Do I have to spell everything out in short sentences of small words? Would that help? Okay, here.

Should anyone want to keep a wavepool named 'Tsunami?' HELL NO.

A coaster? Lemme quote somebody:

I think many perfectly rational park owners and folks interested in making a buck will change the names...and mainly, because they ARE rational. And wanna make a buck.

Who said that? Oh yeah ME.

Seeing that there's exactly one permanent coaster on the continent with that name, it's more of a molehill than a mountain. And if you keep picking at it, it's gonna spread into a nice, nasty rash. Is that what you want, Mooshie? Is it?

-CO

*** Edited 1/7/2005 1:17:45 AM UTC by CoastaPlaya***

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So what year do we start getting to name wavepools after Tsunamis again?

Three to four years after USF opens their Tragic Twin Towers dark ride.
For goodness sake, keep up here!

-CO

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150,000 people died. Not to be mean in the slightest but that number is actually very low in comparison to other tsunami deaths. A lot of ancient tsunami deaths are close or even higher then 1,000,000 people. Infact the record for most people dying in a natural disaster is a tsunami. These things have been happening since the begging of time, why all the sudden people have to react to these things. Let's face it most people like to react quickly then react with a purpose. It's like after 9/11 people wanted to bomb Afganies off the map, they didn't care about anything else. The point is reacting just to react is never a good idea, then agian it's mankind's weakest attribute.

Maybe people should stop using the term earthquake. San Fransisco is over due for the next "BIG ONE". You know people are going to die in that. So let's all jion together and make tsunami, earthquake, and McDonalds illeagal words. Who's with me. Actually I'm a rather overwieght person(on a diet to fit back into roller coaster cars) and I don't blame McDonalds for me being fat at such a young age. I guess being well over 300 pounds is nothing to be okay with, but still lets go after McDonalds. Actually we can hit 2 birds with 1 stone. Mcdonalds sells Blizzards. Can't we ask them to change the name of their product? I mean 2000+ people died in a blizzard last year in Mongolia.