Track record stipulations.

Tuesday, October 1, 2002 5:14 PM

Do you count clones on your track record? This also includes generic coasters at fairs. I do. I'd just like some input as to what constitutes another number added to your track record. Also, do you count seperate sides of racers as a single coaster?

I count American Eagle three times each side forward and one backward. Even though I guess I shouldn't.

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 5:18 PM
Its all a matter of opinion. Do what you feel is correct. There are no definite answers.

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 5:18 PM

There are no rules. It's whatever you think, seriously.

Although I will disagree with your American Eagle credits, I do count American Eagle as 2 and as long as they are two complete circuits I can't them as two. A lot of people say that if twin coasters share structure then it's one...

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*** This post was edited by Coaster Zach on 10/1/2002. ***

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 5:42 PM

Yep. It's up to you. There are no rules.

Off the top of my head with my record:

I don't count Gemini, American Eagle, Colossus, Racer PKI, Rebel Yell, Thunder Road, Racer Kennywood, as 2. Personally, I think they are one coaster.

I would count B&R Chiller, Dueling Dragons, Twisted Sisters, Lightning Racer, Gwazi, Space Mountain WDW (2 seperate coasters under one roof), Matterhorn, etc. as 2.

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 6:22 PM
Do it however you want. Yes, I count clones, I think most people do. No, I do not count any fair rides on the track record. As for a racing/dueling, I only count it as two if it feels completely different to me. The only ones that I can think of are Dueling Dragons and Gwazi.

I count Space Mt., Rebel Yell, Lightning Racer etc. as one.
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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 7:12 PM

My track record is very small, but I would count clones twice. It's a whole different expierence.

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 7:16 PM

I don't count American Eagle as two coasters simply because it's basically the same ride on each side. It's a racing coaster and not a dueling coaster. Dueling = 2 coasters in my books.

As for clones, I count each different ride as a different coaster. If I rode Deja Vu at Six Flags Magic Mountain and then again at Six Flags Great America, I would count it as two coasters. They are the clones, but yet again two entirely different coasters at the same time.

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 6:50 AM

Personally, I'd count AE as two because they ARE different tracks. I was planning on LR for two to get up to 200, but when I saw identical layouts, HP's Schmeck Comet became the "target coaster". For me, if the layouts are identical, it's one coaster....otherwise, S:TE could count as two...;). I do count clones!

But as noted, it's "user-defined"....

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 10:13 AM

Lots of little details to consider.

1. Racing coasters like Gemini for example - at the end the tracks turn opposite directions for the last helix. Technically a left hand turn vs a right hand turn makes for two different layouts. I still count it as one though, but an arguement could be made I suppose. The same could be said for any racer that mirrors in a similar fashion.

2. Mobius track like Racer at Kennywood. It's really only 1 track, so do you have to ride both sides to count it as one? If you only get a chance at one side is it only a 1/2 ride?

3. If you do count racers as one (as I do) do you have to ride both sides for the credit or is riding one side good enough to count it?

4. I also count clones as seperate rides (each boomerang is a credit) as I do duelers that have great variation in the two tracks (Gwazi, Dueling Dragons, B&R:TC).

5. I counted Space Mountain as one - it goes back to the mirrored nature of racers such as the end of Gemini - if I count Gemini as one, I think consistency dictates that Space Mountain should be one also.

Everyone has a different way of keeping count and every way is correct.

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 10:36 AM
Here we go again. There's no correct answer. It's just whatever suits you.

Here's how I count them: I count each coaster attraction as 1 ride. Example: Dueling Dragons @ IOA is one attraction, two tracks. I count it as one ride.

Clones count individually as each one tends to have certain unique characteristics (generally depending on maintenance). Kiddie coasters count as well. Traveling coasters don't count for me (such as rides at the L.A. County Fair or other such carnival). This might become a problem if I were to visit Germany since they have some rather well-known coasters that travel. I'd probably count those.

-Matt

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 3:09 PM

rollergator said:

Personally, I'd count AE as two because they ARE different tracks. I was planning on LR for two to get up to 200, but when I saw identical layouts, HP's Schmeck Comet became the "target coaster". For me, if the layouts are identical, it's one coaster....

From what I've seen, the layouts to Lightning and Thunder are far more different from each other than the layouts for the red and blue tracks on the Eagle. On the Eagle, they're right next to each other, or exactly parrallel but seperated by a few feet, for almost the entire ride!


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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 3:10 PM
Do you kno how many times this has been brought up.............
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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 3:31 PM

Like some people keep on reiterating (SAT prep:)), there is no 'right' or 'wrong' answer. You have the right to choose.

Personally, however, I count all clones. Boomerangs have Arrow Trains, and Boomerangs have Vekoma Trains. They are different, and so each should be counted differently (different views too).

However, although I criticize no one, I fail to see the point of counting parallel tracks as two rides. Also, to be safe, I count dueling rides as one coaster too. Since I have only been on one at this point (Lightning Racer), I might change my mind on this issue.

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 3:41 PM
I'm all for counting clones. If I didn't count every boomerang and SLC my record would be about 30 coasters smaller!

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- Peabody

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 3:53 PM

Here's a question: What if you ride a ride and it gets relocated and you ride it again (like Shockwave or the Mantab coming to the states).

Or what if you get stalled on the MCBR and evacuated in the middle of the ride? (Happened to a friend of a friend on thier only ride on Alpie).

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 4:15 PM

ApolloAndy said:

Here's a question: What if you ride a ride and it gets relocated and you ride it again (like Shockwave or the Mantab coming to the states).

Or what if you get stalled on the MCBR and evacuated in the middle of the ride? (Happened to a friend of a friend on thier only ride on Alpie).

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A rollercoaster? What's that?



I wouldn't count it if it got moved, because it is the same coaster. Unless they changed the track layout in some way. Like with V2 at Marine World.

As for getting evactuated from a coaster, I would count it. Once your on your on.

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 4:21 PM

I agree with what Peabody and Lord Gonchar said. I count racers, such as Gemini, as one. If the park counts it as one coaster then I count it as one coaster.

IMO I'd have to say no to ApolloAndy's question:

"What if you ride a ride and it gets relocated and you ride it again (like Shockwave or the Mantab coming to the states)?"

IMO it's still the same ride, even if it now is at another park. If you want to get really technical, it still has the same serial numbers that it had when it was first manufactured. Anyway, that's just my opinion. :)

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*** This post was edited by Roxy21 on 10/2/2002. ***

*** This post was edited by Roxy21 on 10/2/2002. ***

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 4:29 PM

i think the best question to ask would be

WWrcdbD? ;)

I personally base my count on what that site contains, i.e. racers count as 1

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