Track is up at CP! - CoasterBuzz

Good thought, ShivTim....the COST associated with keeping a TALL crane on-site is enormous....only keep it for as long as you NEED it....then send it back...helps keep the cost down!

420, it's not just for Jerry Garcia anymore....;)

The Wicked Twister was added earlier in the season to the main page. I do believe it was just "drawn" in though. It looks a bit out of proportion. This is so cool that this thing is being tracked already!!! I bet we'll have to wait until after Halloweenend to know anything! Oh well, it keeps these boards interesting!

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MLEM4S rules

btw, there are two spiders currently on the webcam.

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A day is a drop of water in the ocean of eternity. A week is seven drops.

I have seen many coasters that utilize more than one crane at a time to build it...no sense in waiting to lay track 3000 feet away because your 1 crane is working on the station. Multiple cranes = faster building

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Waiting for the CP announcement to be made so that about 1000+ posts will be made complaining about it.

It will be an interesting winter...oh yes, it will be an interesting winter. :)

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Formally Known as Ozzyhead.

Den said:
btw, there are two spiders currently on the webcam.

And that's important because...

......because these 2 spiders will mate and create a mass family thus blocking the whole web cam. :)

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2 superheroes in Gurnee next season? Oh the humanity. :)

Den said:
btw, there are two spiders currently on the webcam.
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A day is a drop of water in the ocean of eternity. A week is seven drops.

Smart alec spiders! Why do they have to take the term WebCam litterally. I don't know but I really don't want to look at a web on the CP WebCam. Perhaps CP can rename the cam the the spiders would know it's not a Spider Web Cam. I want to see the new coaster not a new Spider Web on it. This was just my 2 cents into this matter.

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Wow - that is a very gentle incline. It looks already about the height of Tower of Terror/Superman: The Escape's slope up, and that thing is 4.5G's at around 161km/h (100mph), and what's more, it is only about halfway there.

By the looks of that structure, it has a long long way to go. That is a very beefy looking tower. I don't think I've ever seen crossties that thick before. A bit of a disappointment to me aesthetically, as I personally prefer a nice lattice of supports - Arrow's megalooper supports in particular. Even Millennium Force's supports look skimpy to me, to give you an idea of my perspective. Just something about a track being held up be two toothpicks, it isn't that it looks unsafe, it just isn't pleasing to look at to me.

Just by looking at that slope up/pullout, I assure you, either you're getting a damn fast ride, or a very forceless coaster. however, the sheer magnitude of the tower sort of disqualifies the second argument.

The state I live in felt that they needed something to match up to Stadium Australia in Sydney, so they've spent some absurdly huge amount (I believe well into the billions) completely rebuilding an existing stadium. Let's just say that the crane rental places around must be happy. There are at least half a dozen boom cranes on site, and plenty of trailer mounted ones as well.

A bit of topic - but everyone keeps saying that coasters will keep getting higher, as long as someone is willing to pay for them. However, all this crane talk got me thinking. There's a limit to the height of the cranes used to build them. I can't imagine any cranes anywhere being much more than 600ft in height. Most skyscrapers use cranes to get the bottom sections nice and strong, but after that, I believe they just work off the floors of the building, with construction elevators to get all of them, and their equipment and supplies up there, hence not needing a terribly large crane at all.

And in conclusion, be happy with what you get, even if, as others have said, it is just a launch, tophat and brakerun. I know at least one person in this very room I'm alone in who has it much much worse off. ;)

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So what if the best coaster in Australia is a second hand Arrow?

auscoasterman said:
Just something about a track being held up be two toothpicks, it isn't that it looks unsafe, it just isn't pleasing to look at to me.

hey hey hey.... its three toothpicks!

*** This post was edited by JD on 10/3/2002. ***

One counter-argument for the launch-tophat-brakes people: why would they have started construction already? The structure of the tower is probably half done. They're already laying track to it. If the launch and brake run are both just sitting on stick supports, at this rate they'll be done by, oh, the middle of November?

It'll be a short ride, but just the tophat would be a 15 second ride. I really doubt they'll make it less involved than Xcellerator, so I'd bank on at least a couple overbanks.

I'm not going to make any forecasts about launch/tophat/brakes, but I will say that every time a launch coaster gets put into place there is always a significant amount of testing done to get the speed just right (remember Superman at SFMM's delays?). I have a feeling they are getting the construction done early so they can have a good long amount of time to get the launch bugs out. Especially if the rumors about the height of this monster are true.

I'd just like to say that I hope this coaster does exceed S:TE's height of 415 feet, and not because I am a CP 'fanboy' or that I hate SFMM. I am impartial to all amusement parks and all coasters. But it would be nice to put to rest the ongoing argument(s) about what the tallest coaster is, since S:TE is continually debated over whether or not it's even considered a coaster at all.

But I suspect we'd still have people argue that High Roller is the 'tallest' coaster in the world. ;)

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-Vater
Track Record: 116

Vater said:

But I suspect we'd still have people argue that High Roller is the 'tallest' coaster in the world.
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-Vater
Track Record: 116

If I stood on top of Mt. Everest, that doesn't make me the tallest man in the world.

Dale

*** This post was edited by Dale Picolet on 10/3/2002. ***

S:TE will remain the tallest, fastest duel track rollercoaster in the world. Believe me, the debate will NEVER end.

And anyone who believes CP's new rollercoaster will not top 400ft is either blind or perhaps just wishful thinking...

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OutKast said:

S:TE will remain the tallest, fastest duel track rollercoaster in the world. Believe me, the debate will NEVER end.
And anyone who believes CP's new rollercoaster will not top 400ft is either blind or perhaps just wishful thinking...
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"Escuse me, can you tell me where the heck the Mystery Lodge is"?

See? CP *should* have made their new coaster a DUEL! :-) :-)

Ok maybe this should be a new thread but, I keep looking at the CP webcam and wondering how wide in reality that support is? I'm starting to think that maybe this isn't a rocket coaster.

Let's say this "new thrill ride" isn't a rocket coaster after all. Then what the heck is it? Hmmmm... The creative juices are flowing.

Any ideas out there?

*** This post was edited by ThrillGuy on 10/3/2002. ***

Dale Picolet said:

Vater said:

But I suspect we'd still have people argue that High Roller is the 'tallest' coaster in the world.
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-Vater
Track Record: 116
If I stood on top of Mt. Everest, that doesn't make me the tallest man in the world.

See? ;)

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-Vater
Track Record: 116

*** This post was edited by Vater on 10/3/2002. ***

Notes on crane use:

Cranes cost a lot of money to rent. Big cranes cost more than small cranes. Moving cranes costs money, especially big ones. To save money you would typically put up everything that you can with the small crane, and then bring in the big crane for as little time as possible to put up the stuff that you can't reach with the small crane.