Tomb Raider....whats your thoughts???
But see... that's the beauty of it. They can change the program. Heck, they already have several times so far this year. I think it even changed for our ERT at CoasterBuzzCon, because earlier in the day I don't remember getting to see the entire ride (cross brace and all) and the set when the tub was upright at the back of the room, eye level with the brace.
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Jeff, I think the actual ride time needed to be longer. But thats just me. I only rode it once with the pre-show @ CoasterBuzzCon. That added more time to the ride experience... The ERT was cool though. Don't get me wrong, the ride was great, but I just wanted it to be longer. Every ride needs to be longer! ;)
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The ride was great. Not too short, nor too long. PKI out did themselves with this. They could have just stuck a topspin in but they decided to theme it... how nice of them was that?
The pre-show's were very Disney-esque, but it worked... and veryw well. It keeps your mind off the fact that your acctually still in line. But the ride is definatley fun and very well themed!
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super7 said:
Lines for this ride will dwindle to nothing, it is not a timeless attraction. Sort of like Flight Commander did (huge lines the first year it was open).
Take a look at Drop Zone . The park is still surprised that the ride is so popular. It seems like it hasn't lost a bit of popularity. Flight Commander always had a line when I went and rode it until after the accident. Then it seemed to lose popularity.
They spent a lot of money on theming that could have been used to install other flat rides, which the park desperately needs.Or more family oriented rides (which the whole family can ride together, kids to grandma, such as dark rides).
Nickelodeon Central is aimed at familes and that was installed last year. While I am sure there are many others that want a huge flat ride package, they have to realize that the park had researched this and found out that adding a lot of flats this year was probably not the best move.
Certain areas of the country or world do better at other things. Flat rides seem to do better at Paramount Canada's Wonderland considering they have been getting quite a few in recent times. Having a large flat ride, and themed really well could have easily been what PKI needed instead of a lot of flats scattered throught the park. Then again, I don't work for the park so what do I know? =:^)
The "show" on tomb raider will get old after a few times, and you will basically have a top spin as the theming goes down.
While the show may get old after a few times, what is to say the show can't be changed or modified the same way the actual ride can?
And this ride does not fit in Rivertown. There were not middle eastern tombs in the river days of Ohio.
Neither was there a Beast, or a white water adventure with canyons but for some reason no one seems to mention those.
And there were not jeeps. Paramount has just about totally raped all the original theming of the themed sections of their park, and Tomb Raider was another step backward in that aspect.
I find it to be a huge step forward in what we will see in the future. I was not the largest fan of theming but i will admit that the theming at IOA and now at PKI has me really excited about what is to come.
So, what do I think of Tomb Raider?
I thought I would know exactly what to expect and I was totally floored. Shaggy and I went through the attraction together for the first time and we were in awe at how well everything was done. Yes, I will say the ending does seem to be a bit odd (not bad IMO, just strange), but like Shaggy said, the park is working on the ending among a few other things that will probably make the ride more enjoyable for a lot more people.
-Sean (who will probably be taking a few rides on Tomb Raider tomorrow)
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I wouldn't dare compare PKI theming with IOA theming. At least at IOA, each ride is integrated in the central theme of the area. At kings island now, rides are just plopped down whereever convient.
I do not see Tomb Raider as being a timeless classic. Just like the Paramount Waynes World theming went away, Outer Limits, etc. Their theming is more about self-promoting whatever their lastest film is. It is far from being Disney......
What exists in Nick Central? A vibrating inverted kiddie coaster (this is NOT the kind of family ride i am talking about, they lack rides like the former Monorail, Enchanted Voyage, Gullivers Rub A Dub where little kids to grandparents can ride together), a rethemed ride that had existed there since the park opened, a water maze and a theatre, at the price of another family ride, the turnpike.
This park used to be wonderfully themed, each section took you away. The park is still nice, but everything is so hodge-podge it feels like you are at any other carnival like park with no theming nowdays.
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The theming through the queue was great. The first room worked for me because of th subtle lights changes that take your attention while the ride cycle is going through. The light show for the door into the second chamber was impressive, and the movie and theming was great in the second chamber.
The ride itself I must admit exceeded my expectations, and those who were posting during the early speculation about the ride may remember that I was excited about the possibilities of a Top Spin with theming. From the beginning of the ride (which I took to feel like you wer climbing down into a tomb chamber and the cliff you were on was falling, leaving you and your flashlight swinging before waking up the statue) to the end, I thought it was a marvelous experience. The ending needs a bit of work, but the voiceover at the end sems to help a little.
For those who complain about how useless theming is, and why they spent the money on it, might I point you towards the Twilight Zone Tower Of Terror. A totally themed drop ride that is enhanced by the theming. I believe Tomb Raider falls in the same category. Theming that makes you feel like you're walking into a mysterious cave and down into the depths of a tomb before being caught by, and then escaping, a mysterious power is so much better than just a Top Spin. If the programming is changed, and even some theming is added/removed, it could be a completely diferent experience.
Definitely a great ride.
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I loved Tomb Raider. It is now my favorite ride in the park. The themeing is great, and the ride is incredible. Actually, the reason I went on the ride was because of the themeing. I had never gone on a Top Spin before, in fear of getting sick. I admit, the ending could be better. One more revolution of the two towers while the "car" spins two or three times with all the lights flashing and the lava and stalactites illuminated. Then, you would come to an abrupt stop, the fog would shoot out, and you would hear the voice. And maybe when you hear the voice and after the fog, the car does one more rotation, just as a little suprise. That would be a perfect ending, IMO.
Just a litte side note: Has anyone noticed that the themeing has changed a little bit? I noticed that instead of blacklights lighting up the giant six armed god, with it's "evil" painting, the eyes shoot out lasers. The first time I rode it, the god was lit up with black lights, and the eyes lit up too. Te next time I rode Tomb Raider, the god didn't light up and the eyes shot out lasers through some fog. Anyone else notice this?
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super7 said:
I wouldn't dare compare PKI theming with IOA theming. At least at IOA, each ride is integrated in the central theme of the area.
Forgive me if that is what you thought I was trying to convey. I don't think the theming at IOA can be compared to that of PKI because they are two very different parks.
At kings island now, rides are just plopped down whereever convient.
I am willing to be that there is a lot of research looking into where to put a ride as opposed to being 'plopped'.
I do not see Tomb Raider as being a timeless classic. Just like the Paramount Waynes World theming went away,
There is still some Waynes World theming at PKD and PCW if I am not mistaken. Plus, the Hurler still gives rides under that name.
Outer Limits, etc. Their theming is more about self-promoting whatever their lastest film is.
The reason the Outer Limits name was changed wasn't due to them promoting the show. The last time I rode the ride, everything was still intact inside and outside. The only change I noticed was the removal of Outer Limits from the pre-show.
It is far from being Disney......
True, and anyone going to PKI or another mid-west park expecting Disney is either going to be dissapointed, or happy. Sad because the parks don't look like Disney, or glad that these other parks offer more in thrills than Disney. I guess it is all how you look at it.
What exists in Nick Central? A vibrating inverted kiddie coaster (this is NOT the kind of family ride i am talking about,
But, everytime I am in line for that ride, I am surrounded by familes. The whole area has been a family magnet.
they lack rides like the former Monorail, Enchanted Voyage, Gullivers Rub A Dub where little kids to grandparents can ride together),
While those rides may be gone, I am pretty sure maintence had something to do with their removal. Trust me. If Paramount would have gone with their original idea of what they 'wanted' to do with the Monorail, I think a lot more people would have wanted it removed. =:^)
a rethemed ride that had existed there since the park opened, a water maze and a theatre, at the price of another family ride, the turnpike.
Yes, but those are attractions families can, and do, enjoy to this day. When the park thinks it is time to add more family attractions, there is no doubt in my mind they will do it. They have to balance in between adding something thrilling, yet mild enough for others to ride.
This park used to be wonderfully themed, each section took you away. The park is still nice, but everything is so hodge-podge it feels like you are at any other carnival like park with no theming nowdays.
Then again, if they didn't change the park, we wouldn't have some of the amazing attractions we have now. True?
-Sean (off to PKI in 10 hours) F.
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My first ride left me with a great first impression, and I love listening to first time riders. Some swear it's a coaster, others confuse it with F/X theater. I think I'll go back in the morning to do it again!
Jim Moreland
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I got my first ride back after SRM 02 and I was let down.
The theme from the outside was done very well, and the queue was nice although rather short. I thought the pre-show was kinda dumb, but made a good basis for the ride.
As for the ride it'self I couldn't believe how big this thing was when we walked in, it's HUGE, but the ride program is not much. I do see where they achieved tho, the interaction between the ride and the show is outstanding, except we found it a little hard to understand the voices over all the screams.
This of course was waiting about 1 hr after the our walkback, when we left to go ride Beast and Vortex because it hadn't opened until 10:30am, at least we didn't wait very long after the fact (about 10mins) or else I think we would of been more disapointed.
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