Togo restraints are definately harder to get into when you are larger...but still if you are in the middle of the train on a B&M its hard to notice you are even on a coaster.
Acoustic Viscosity said:
Yay?
lol
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I've only had one ride on Mantis where I had the bicycle seat forced up to an uncomfortable spot by one of the ride hosts. I can usually get it in between a click with enough room left between my shoulders and the top of the harness, and then when I'm out of the station headed up the lift I just shrug down to lock it down that click. It keeps the bicycle seat out of the way and I still have a bit of room above the shoulders to stand regularly.
Never been on a TOGO to compare, but I have a feeling I might be a little tall to fit comfortably from what I've heard.
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For me the best part of the Togo stand ups is the bunny hops on the return trip. I was catapulted into the restraints 3-4 times.
The release pedals at Kings Island were at some point retrofitted with a metal housing that only allowed access from the side (the direction an operator would be facing during load/unload). As others have mentioned, the pedals were absolutely accessible by riders This retrofit happened several years after the ride was installed, but I don't remember if it was prior to, or after the accident at Kings Island.
Whether the pedals worked after the ride left the station back then (1984-?), I would have no idea. However, there was obviously a need to retrofit, so take it for what you will. Interesting to hear that the remaining version doesn't have those housings, which would make one think that the restraints had been modified over the course of time to not NEED those coverings.
I don't have any problem with the B&M stand up restraints. Riddler and Scorcher are the only layouts that are worth it, though.
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The problem I have with the B&M stand-ups is that the seat is too w-i-d-e for me to comfortably straddle it...I have large thighs, and the seat is so wide that if I stand straight up and down, the seat ends up near my knees. This puts the shoulder bar pivot down below my shoulder blades, which means the shoulder bar can't come down without a ton of compression.
I have similar issues with the Togo, but the smaller seat can come up a little higher. Still, I end up riding with the shoulder loops almost all the way open, again because my shoulders are above the shoulder loop. If I could stand with my feet further apart I could get the seat up higher, but there isn't enough foot room for that.
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ApolloAndy said:
I don't have any problem with the B&M stand up restraints. Riddler and Scorcher are the only layouts that are worth it, though.
Once again, Andy NAILS it... :)
RideMan said:
The problem I have with the B&M stand-ups is that the seat is too w-i-d-e for me to comfortably straddle it
That's the same problem I have. Which is one of the main reason's I prefer the Togo's. I'm still not a big fan of Stand-ups. But, given a choice that only included a B&M or Togo stand-up, I would pick Togo 9 out of 10 times.
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The pedals were electric and I think only controlled the height of the seat. Its been awhile since King Cobra left KI (Or is it still sitting out there?)
That being said, I did have someone take their umbrella and unlock the restraints in my car from the car behind me on Gerstlauers foot pedals on a lift hill once. Not cool.
I'm happy to see that a bunch of other people appreciate the TOGO stand-ups, I always thought the popular opinion among enthusiasts was that they sucked. Shockwave makes me smile every single time, even the junk-punching finale in the back row.
I did have someone take their umbrella and unlock the restraints in my car from the car behind me on Gerstlauers foot pedals on a lift hill once.
How was it they were allowed to have an umbrella on the ride to begin with?
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Well since we are showing TOGO stand-up love, I really, really miss King Cobra. She was the first coaster I fell in love with.
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Even though technically he was still scamming on a snake.
I rode two of the Japanese stand up coasters. Momonga was interesting! You have two stations and one side has a stand up train and the other one a sit down train. When one of the side is ready, it wait until the other one is stopped in the station area and the two tracks slide over so one is lined up with the lift and the other one with the loading platform. Only the sitdown side was open and it was a short and intense layout.
Milky Way was surprising. Best stand up coaster I ever rode. Its a racing coaster with one side stand up and the other one sitdown. No inversions, but great drops, airtime and intense helix.
So, do you need to ride both trains before getting your credit on Momonga? :)
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Jeff said:
So you did like girls at one time. ;)
What makes this really funny for me is that I typed "he" at first, but then realized that I've always thought of that ride as a she, so I changed it. lol
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