To many SF parks, one to few full days...

Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:19 AM
Hello All,

Well, I figured I would try this again. I READ the TOS, and I can't find how this question is not allowed. So, despite having the first thread close, I will try again, with slightly different wording, in the hopes I get some infomation on personal experiences at these SPECIFIC parks so that I can form an opinion that will guide my trip planning to maximize the time and money I spend. I thought CoasterBuzz would be a good place to get that guidance, so I will give it another try.

These parks are ALL along my planned route. For time/money reasons, I may not be able to stop at every one.

SFFrontierCity
SFSt.Louis
KentuckyKingdom
SFWorldsOfAdventure
SFGreatAmerica

Which park would you choose to skip, and why? Do you think a short visit, say 4 hours, would be enough to warrant stoping at one particular park?

Thanks for the help!

Sprig

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Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:22 AM
The reason why it was closed is because it has the "tone" of a "this park is better than this park." Oh, and to make a point that was made in the last thread you posted this. Frontier City is NOT included with your season pass. The other four are really good Six Flags parks (well most of them are).

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Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:29 AM
Thanks Swoosh,

I suppose I could ask which three parks would you absolutely not miss, and would deprive yourself of sleep to make a stop at.

I really don't consider this an "-est" post. This is an, "I don't have enough vacation days to stop at them all for a full day" post.

I'd LIKE to visit every one, but likely can't. And, I can tell from the end of your post, "The other four are really good Six Flags parks (well most of them are)." you have an opinion of one you would skip if time were an issue. I'd like to know which park, and why.

Thanks!
*** This post was edited by Sprig 4/17/2003 3:30:50 PM ***

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Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:37 AM
Well ok, I'll bite. Of the four that you mentioned, I think SFKK has the weakest ride line-up. It's still a good park, but it is extremely hot during the summer (and the lack of shade doesn't help.) With that being said, it's home to a Schwarkopf shuttle loop, so the park can't be all bad.
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Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:45 AM
I'd say StL and GAm are the two *can't miss* and that KK and WoA are parks you shouldn't miss if you can help it...based on rides alone...

On MY experiences, KK has been getting better as time goes by, and adding a "new" coaster doesn't hurt a bit...esp. when it's an Anton...we also had a very good time at WoA (one trip in '00), and they've got a pretty good line-up. Big Dipper is one of the oldest coasters in a SF park, and runs great!
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Thursday, April 17, 2003 11:48 AM
I have been to 4 of these parks.

Great America would be my top choice. In fact, they have enough great coasters and interesting flat rides, its worth 2 days in my book. 3 of my top coasters are in the park. The theming is nice (although Six Flags has lost some of the nice Marriott feel to the themes, their SW Territory is very well done.

These are the pluses of the other parks in my opinion,

St Louis second i believe. Mr Freeze is fantastic, and i thought that with the shoulder restraints. Boss is nice long coaster with good drops, but has an annoying vibrating roughness, Screamin Eagle was very rough. This was 2 years ago and retracking is reported this year. The mine train is nice, standard Batman. Vekoma corkscrew is ok. The evolution (if they keep it running) would be one of my biggest reasons to go. Its the only Natau-Bussink version of this ride in the US. A few nice flats. The atmosphere is nice because it sits at bottom of foothills. Most of the theming is 1800s feel except for the out of place superhero theming. This is a one day park. Only about 30 rides if that.

Worlds of Adventure. Excellent floorless. Superman is great ride, virturally same as V2 at Great America. All 3 wood coasters are bascially out and backs. Villian was great ride opening year but has had bad reports since. Standard vekoma boomerang and SLC. And X Flight which i cannot comment on as i have not ridden it. Enough flat rides, nothing out of the ordinary in that dept. Nice setting on the lake. Big park with waterpark, wildlife side and rides. It could also be a 2 day park. Bad reputation for closed rides and one train operation.

Ky Kingdom. No atmosphere, built on fairgrounds in city. Thunder Run is excellent, one train on it. Twisted Twins are ok, but like Boss, annoying vibrating roughness (must be the gerstauler-CCI combo). One train on each. Chang is good stand up. Average flat ride collection, nothing out of the ordinary except vekoma Wakiki Wave which is usually closed or may be removed according to reports. Standard and original vekoma SLC. Standard wild mouse. The reason to go here this year is the Schwarzkopf shuttle loop, which is becoming a rare breed. This is still a wonderful ride 25 years from its inception. A one day park at best.


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Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:03 PM
Thank you both Swoosh, and Super 7,

I can tell now, this probably wasn't a good idea! I would really REALLY like to get a ride on another of the Shwartzkoff Shuttle loops, as Monte at KBF is amoung my favorite rides. The lack of shade, and high temps, is something I am not used to, being from the Pacific Northwest; and I am likely bringing three kids. If I do decide to stop at this park, I will plan to stay for only a few hours.

Since Frontier City does NOT accept the season pass, that makes it seem like an easy park to pass up. However, would it be worth it to pay full entry price? I think time is going to be a bigger problem then money.

Sprig
*** This post was edited by Sprig 4/17/2003 4:10:00 PM ***

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Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:57 PM
I would hold off on Frontier City until you can also hit Bell's and possibly other parks in that area. But that's just me. I hate getting close to a bunch of new-to-me parks and not being able to go to them all.
I myself have been to all four of the mentioned SF parks, but not Frontier City yet. Don't forget about the Branson, MO parks. You may want to consider that variable.

Like others have said, GAm is not to be missed--one of my personal favorites. Viper is da bomb!

I've had great times at WoA, but last time I was there, the service/capacity was terrible. Still, I think they have a great coaster selection. The Big Dipper's classic trains seem so out of place in a theme park. You feel like you've stepped into Kennywood for a moment. And it's a great ride!

KK has some good stuff. I'd go for the shuttle looper alone, but Hellavator , Thunder Run and Twisted Twins are great too. And then there's Chang and T2 and others. Also, it may be very hot and un-shady, but there is a water park right in the middle of all the action, so keep that in mind.

SF St. Louis is good stuff as well. I've found that the air time in the back seat of Screamin' Eagle makes up for the rather shakey (American Eagle-ish) ride. Night rides are great as it's nicely placed in the trees. The Boss is rough, but still a very exciting woodie. If only ithad better trains! I really enjoyed Mr. Freeze. I rode it just to get the credit and expected a headbanging mediocre ride, but it was one of the most fun looping coasters I'd been on. I can't wait to try it with just lap bars. Also, I really like the River King Mine Train. It's one of the better Arrow mine rides in my book. I recall their log flume being above average as well, but it's been many years since I've ridden it
Have a great time!
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Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:10 PM
By the way...if you're driving thru Wichita don't pass up a few hours at Joyland. Their Schmeck L-shaped out and back is a lot of fun and there's plenty for the kids to do.

Moosh

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Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:11 PM
Just a thought, and not to slam Six Flags parks, but there are PLENTY of other parks to hit if you will be in this area. Holiday World comes to mind, and its cheap, has 2 of the best coasters on the planet and can be done easily in 4 hours or less.
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Thursday, April 17, 2003 2:33 PM
Soggy has a point. Indiana Beach is *somewhat* along that route as well and is definitely worthy of a stop.

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Thursday, April 17, 2003 3:05 PM
Agreed. HW, and IB top any of those SF parks. :) I'd take them! :)

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Friday, April 18, 2003 7:06 AM
That's funny, I don't remember him asking about those parks. I just assumed he had a "Six Flags season pass" and wanted to go the cheap route and get into parks that he could for free (with his pass).

Definitely recommend the SDC/CC side trip, and heck stop at WOF while you are in the Show-Me State.

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Friday, April 18, 2003 7:19 AM
That's funny, maybe I thought I'd give him MY suggestion of what to do while in the area. Seeing as he has only 10 posts, I'm guessing he is new to the enthusiast community. Maybe he had never heard of Holiday World, Indiana Beach or Joyland. As for going cheap, HW has free parking and free drinks, and admission is only what, $30? That's cheap in my book.

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*** This post was edited by Soggy 4/18/2003 11:21:25 AM ***

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Friday, April 18, 2003 7:43 AM
just hit the best ones and the trip will be worth it. the small less good ones u can visit another time.
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Friday, April 18, 2003 10:50 AM
I will be picking up a family sized set of SixFlags season passes whithin the next three weeks. I am DEFINATELY trying to do this somewhat cheap.

I am not against visiting other parks. If I have enough funds, I also plan for my firist visit to Cedar Point. However, having to pay for every park visit would empty my wallet.

I've been around for quite some time, despite my low post count. Lurking takes less time!

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Friday, April 18, 2003 11:45 AM
My friend if you are going to CP, go to WOF its combined pass with OOF is only approx $80-90 and WOF alone is about 70 and CP admission rate is close to $50. If you get the combined WOF/OOF pass you can get into Soak City.

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Friday, April 18, 2003 1:34 PM

Sprig said:

I've been around for quite some time, despite my low post count. Lurking takes less time!


Amen to that!!
*** This post was edited by coasterdudeOH 4/18/2003 5:35:58 PM ***

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Friday, April 18, 2003 2:26 PM
agreed
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