Tips/Tricks for lapbar room

I ussally don't really care for lapbar room anymore. The reason why I don't is because I don't like gut checks on the breaks. Also I was more recently expreimenting with what you guys call stapling. On the Timber Wolf one day I got the lapbar super snug on me and know why it issn't a good thing to staple. Whenever I lower my lap bar I lower it until it puts preasure against me. When I do this I still have about an inch of room left. I sometimes get a bigger gap and I regret it. With a loose bar air time get rough on the landing part. I ended up doing this on the Timber Wolf yesterday.

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Chris Knight
All Your Base are belong to us
That's not roughness that intensity

Being stapled & not being stapled makes ALL the difference in the world. There's no point in riding stapled all day long when you can have good safe fun. That's the sense of what I could make from this thread.

It's not complaining & I didn't notice that anyone was happy about it.

If you LIKE being pinned to the seats, staple yourself down, that's fine. For some of us, it's not a good way to be riding.

Airtime, forces changing, those ARE the reasons for riding coasters in the first place, at least in this house.

As for MF I didn't really get much for air on that ride, sans over the top, & Magnum, well, I found a limp lapbar & one staple before getting one bit the sensation of air. The limp lapbar didn't staple on me, it just kinda dragged heavy, kept falling. Different rides do different things to different people, & on different days, too.

I would just like to save everyone the time (xpecially my time) on SOB (at least) when riding:

Both knees must be inside the U shaped bar

The bar has to be touching your stomache

If this is stapling for you people, I am sorry. But these are the requirements and if you do not follow them, we tell you you dont ride. Simple as that.

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.....and it's the same restraint system(I've been told) as on Flight of Fear, & it IS a wonderful design for a restraint, IMHO. BUT, were it to be forced down upon you, that IS a whole 'nother story.

"If this is stapling for you people...", NO, that's not a staple. Thanks, Tom.
You continue with "are the
requirements and if you do not follow them....", especially that statement, applied to ALL THE RULES, including the unspoken support & okaying of cameras on rides & POVs. Why is it so WRONG to NOT enjoy being stapled? It's OK to liter the 'net with POVs, which, IMHO are VERY WRONG, dangerous, & noncorteous to other riders, but it's not okay to think," man, I really wonder what I can do to not be stapled. I'd have a little fun with a few inches in the bar region, you know".

Tom, I'm sure people do waste alot of your time, thanks for stopping in & commenting. FOF @ PKD, they seem to load that thing at their own leisure, closing & fastening the restraints FOR everyone, a little excessive, but sometimes what must be done must be done.

p_c_r said:

Why is it so WRONG to NOT enjoy being stapled?

Who said it was?

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Fiesta Fest Weakest Link contestant wannabe.

Alot of you seem annoyed by this topic, that's all.

I like to have that "handspace" between me & the bar, I never knew so many were opposed, or see that as an inconvenience or something.

But after reading these 2 & 3 click comments, it's NO WONDER I've been stapled.......

Safe, fun, safety is fun? They did teach us something about safety on a little bus thing one day. Fun is fun, when made safe, something like that. Anyways, it's all about the fun to be had, all in a safe manner.

PCR,

With my statement I was aware of all the rules. Some require people to actually put forth effort (ie not riding when you dont have the medical requirements posted at the entrance) and this is one that applies. Also, your question I can answer by saying that if you were sitting properly in the seat, back completely up against the seat, you probabily wouldnt be stapled. In fact, when I push down the restraint, if I see someone not sitting properly, I ask them to move. This is the same with everyone I work with.

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SOB crew in twenty 02

Tom, I wasn't talking about you, some people KNOW the rules & pick the ones that they feel apply to them. I'm talking about riders.

...& thanks for making people sit up. Some people aren't as efficient, that's the way it's supposed to be.

I would say put the bar near or touching your legs/stomach.

My theory is if you don't you WILL be "stapled."

I would say a staple is putting the bar down so hard you can't move. I got STAPLED TO THE THIRD POWER on Disaster Transport by accident, by myself :). But the Ride Op said before we left, "That looks uncomfortable." I said, "Yah, it is kinda." So she unlocked the bars and let me raise it a little. CP's staff is so nice!

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Why do they report power outages on TV?

I think that however you want to put the lapbar down you can do it as long as you are safe. If you put it down 2 or 3 clicks you will be fine. I try not to get stapled but if I do I just tell teh ride op and they unlock my row. I usually ride 3 clicks. You still get nice airtime.

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-Sean Newman
80 coasters and soon to be more
Life is a roller coaster Ride It!

I guess since it might appear that I advocate violating the rules, I should "return to the scene of the crime" and mention that I'm all about PERSONAL safety and responsibility. I check my own restraints, EVERY time. I also assume that any deviation from either park rules or common sense voids any guarantee, implied or explicit, that a rider will return safely to the station.

On inverteds/stand-ups, I pull the OTSRs down until they're nice and snug, makes the ride more enjoyable. And normally, I employ no "tricks" for additional room....but if the ops are yanking down on the lapbars/seatbelts - and you can tell by watching, then sure I'll do my part for my own comfort and enjoyment.....'nuff said.

To those who feel this way: why does being stapled ruin your ride? Are you saying that if you're stapled its impossible for you to have ANY fun or enjoyment during the ride? Is coming off your seat so important that if it doesn't happen your ride experience is ruined? Please explain this to me because I just don't get that sentiment at all.

Matthew - just happy to ride

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Just yesterday I was at CP, the first time since MF has been built. So kind of a big day for me and this girl in the row in front of me was standing the entire ride. She had her knees even with the lap bar and had completely loosened the seatbelt. I really didn't understand why that was necessary. That kind of behavior is what leads to accidents on coasters therefore inciting critics to start complaining and local governments to start regulating the amusement industry even more. It's a no win situation for everyone.

Mamoosh: I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think too many people would rather not ride than ride stapled, but I do think there are a lot of people who would rather ride roomy than ride stapled.

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AC?, RB?, MF?, DD?, PR? Who can keep track of it all?

Matthew, that's a close way to put it.
I'm happy to ride, too, BUT....
....it's very important for me, being skinny, to NOT be in a staple. I throw the skinny in there because of lack of padding I was dealt. Besides, IMHO you feel the vibrations harsher, & the top part of your body moves more, what with having your bottom half pinned down.

It's like two different rides. Being stapled on a woodie is not like riding a woodie to me.

There's a safe point that's fun.

BTW, speaking of staples, my button on my work pants got stuck at work today & went flying off, to keep my pants on(until the emergency pair arrived) my boss hands me the STAPLER. I got stapled at work today;).

I agree with Jeff. Seatbelts can make a ride experience better if you put it tight. I still get plenty of air even when my lapbar/harness is all the way down on me.

Geez...I guess I am one of those that follows the rules. No op has ever stapled me. I'd rather feel secure and safe on my ride, than feel if I'm going to be thrown out. If you see me on a coaster trying to press that bar down more, I will get it down at least one or two more clicks on the lift hill. If I want airtime, I'll jump out of an airplane.

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Thrillnetwork member (CedarPoint_Mark)

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redman822 said:
But also keep in mind...Ride ops can be enthusiasts too...they read these sites and see these "ideas". So if you think it's the park in general warning the ops, don't bet on it. IMHO, it is the individual ops reading these ideas and cracking down.

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Posting, "Me too" like some brain dead AOLer. I ought to to the world a favor, and cap you like old yeller...

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...shhh, don't tell them our secrets...Watch out, cause i'm a staplin' lovin ride op!

This is a sick, dangerous thread, so here are my suggestions :-D. If you are sitting near the front or back, sit one the side where the operators will check you last, unless they start from the same row. Hold your knees up to the restraint, but don't make it obvious. Make sure that who you are with does not need help, because operators may then notice. I don't do this much, but this is just from the times I did. I do agree with you, Legendary, that it can be dangerous, but I assure that I'm not so stupid that I'd do it to a point where it is dangerous. I may loosen it one extra click, and even if I do it I realize that I'm putting myself at risk, and I hope you understand the fact that one extra click loose isn't dangerous unless someone is a tall/(fat in a good way) and one extra click will mean it has had no clicks at all. Anyway, I've noticed newer coasters have lapbars with clicks with less space in between, so this will probably minimize the effect.

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HuKeD oNN fonickS dusinT wOrK"[;.

*** This post was edited by Raging Rider on 6/9/2002. ***

Somtimes I dont mind being staple to the seat, becuase it makes me feel more comfortable, the only ride however i do that on is Nitro at SFgadv becuase if im too losse i feel like im going to slide out, and i dont really like that feeling on a coaster with hgihseats, and little sides to hold you in, but then i guess B&M's idea to scare people with that works on me.