Timberliners not going on Voyage?

Or they're out-performing PTC's in terms of maintenance on the trains and the track itself. Heck, a PTC could not physically run on the two smaller rides, if I recall correctly, because of the shape of the hills and turns. I don't think many people truly appreciate the reduction of track abuse just from having steering guide wheels on these things.

From my experience on WW it's like the trains and ride were made for each other. I did also kind of think, along with one other of my friends that Timberliners would be frightning on the Voyage.

As far as running flawlessly. The day we went there was no big problems but the front row was closed off at first. When they opened it the one restraint did not look right. AV knows what i'm talking about. It looked like it would only close halfway, even on the smallest child. Also kind of a quirky thing, everytime the train came to a stop the ops had to pull it ahead about a foot manually. I'm sure that is something that could use some attention. No big problems, but two small ones in one day.

HeyIsntThatRob? said:
Those vouchers were only good for the 2010 season. We got ours from HWN and used them at the Fall Affair, even though the Timberliners weren't running. We still had fun.

~Rob

Well we were there and were hoping to get back later that year as well

Did not go to HWN last year and have asked them and they say we can use our tickets whenever we want. We plan this year with Mammoth whether Timberliners or not.

^ Who told you to use them "whenever you want"? Our tickets really aren't open-ended in that way.

If you want to email me about this, we can get them swapped out for 2012 tickets, but we can't extend the offer indefinitely.

Thanks, Paula

Just like any other coaster train, I've seen some problems with the Timberliners on Wooden Warrior as DKNY mentioned, as well as one of the two trains on Gröna Lund's Twister. In both cases, a row was closed off due to malfunctioning lap bars. And on both rides, the "leg guard" tends to dig into my shins. Considering how tall the TGG guys are, I'm kinda surprised they didn't make this part a little comfier.

P.S. The front seat with the tricky lap bar on Wooden Warrior was a little extra scary for me that day. ;)

you mean a lap bar that only closed about 40% of the way was scary? lol

With that sick airtime... yeah, just a bit. ;)

^This can be a good thing :) I mean, if it's SAFE, and you feel like that, why not? I have a feeling the Gravitykraft guys know what they are doing.

It's definitely safe. It's just a new sensation to get used to. The Timberliner restraint "holds me in" differently than the PTC restraint. It's very safe, but at the same time feels loose (which is a good thing). I used to get really nervous on the B&M hypers when I would slide up in the seat on the airtime hills, because the lap bar held me in by my thighs instead of my waist. It's a similar sensation on the Timberliners.

It's kind of cool to be thrilled again by a coaster. It's been so long since I lost the thrill and just found it to be good fun.

One of the things to keep in mind is the function of the restraint. It's there to entrap you geometrically so that you can't be thrown from the train. It is NOT there to immobilize you.

My gut feel, having not yet ridden in a Timberliner (but having watched its progress with great interest) is that the Gravity Guys understand this pretty well just as a result of their research and development. Combine that with their penchant for aggressive designs, and I imagine the Timberliner is designed to be pretty frightening! 8-)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Raven Maven said:
^ Who told you to use them "whenever you want"? Our tickets really aren't open-ended in that way.

If you want to email me about this, we can get them swapped out for 2012 tickets, but we can't extend the offer indefinitely.

Thanks, Paula

Paula, I will email you.

Acoustic Viscosity said:
I used to get really nervous on the B&M hypers when I would slide up in the seat on the airtime hills, because the lap bar held me in by my thighs instead of my waist.

While it might not feel as secure, that's actually a GOOD thing -- it means the restraint is doing its job properly ("lap bar", not "waist bar" :) )

Any news on the testing? I wonder (I'm sure many have) if the other 2 woodies at Holiday World would transfer to Timberliners if they are proven to be successful on Voyage (which I'm feeling will be true).

I agree, Greg. A good restraint keeps you in, but doesn't make you feel like you're pinned in. I know I can't be ejected from a Timberliner, but it "feels" like I might be, and that's how a coaster should feel.

Billy, Will once said that they were interested in doing just that.

Seems to me the Legend needs PTC's.

DKNY6363 said:
Seems to me the Legend needs PTC's.

I think Legend runs pretty darn good in PTC's. Well, except for that annoying sometimes painful redunkulous lap bar.

Legend "looks" cool in those flaming purple PTCs, too. It is my favorite ride there, so I'm biased about much of it. Who knows, it could look even 'cooler' with Timberliners. Have a funny feeling it would ride better too, definitely faster.

I wonder what effect the single 'bench' trains will have on coasters that currently have 2 (or 3!) benches. That Herbert P. Schmeck moment of torque seat may be slightly affected.

Hard laterals need to stay hard... no steering required.

You can still have hard laterals through a smooth turn.

Legend has never even come close to running like it did with the G train. Both hills on the double up delivered stand up air and if its running good with the PTC you get a good pop but nothing close. Also the first Corner of Death works only in the back and only if its running tip top (For the PTC)