Thoughts on Anton's Custom Speedracers

Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:20 AM
You should try posting that No Limits Zinger recreation here (if you are a Club Member) or at coastersims.com (they are strict critics there don't let them bring you down).

Anyway back on subject!

I don't know some of you guys think Zinger was a short ride, even tough it only had 2100 feet of track, It felt like a good long ride. This was probally because it was only 75 feet tall so it didn't go too fast and there were some slow spots, but going through the woods on some awesome turns without seatbelts or lapbars was very awesome. Also the tunnel at the end was the best ending to any coaster ride I ever been on.

*** Edited 11/10/2005 9:29:03 AM UTC by Sawblade5***

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:09 AM
I know I run the risk of personal attacks by those CBers who think contradicting RCDB is sacrilege, but the Schwarzkopf coaster site indicates that Zinger was 2800 feet long. Having ridden it I think the 2100 figure is too short, and would tend to agree with the length stated on schwarzkopf.coaster.net even though it seemed longer than both those figures.
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Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:44 AM
2800 feet does sound more like the length of the ride. I didn't think it was only 2100 feet. 2100 feet is just over the length of 2 Boomerangs back to back. Zinger was longer than that.
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Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:05 PM
Yeah, 2100 feet sounds kinda short. I'm thinking the 2800' figure is more accurate.
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Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:26 PM
SFGAm Shock Wave, thanks for the correction. Shoulda figured with the way SFI plays musical chairs that it would be a short-lived tenure...LOL!

I sure wish I'd gotten on a few of those things, while I *love* (lust, crave, desire?) Whizzer and its looping cousin at HP, there's just NEVER enough Anton to go around.

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:10 PM
And getting some "Anton" is getting more and more difficult. Seems like a few leave us every year.
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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:33 PM
Even the 2800' figure seems too short to me. Not that it means much, but I remember on the train ride at WoF, the "tour guide" always said that Zinger featured "almost a mile of twisted track."
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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:37 PM
Acoustic, I sent you a PM with my email. I'd love to ride the Zinger!
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Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:45 PM
I sent the file out to those who asked for it. I really need to start from scratch and make a new model though. The current one is the 2nd or third coaster I ever did in NoLimits and it was a couple of years ago, before I really knew what I was doing. It's still one of my favorites though.
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Friday, November 11, 2005 10:20 PM
Zinger is somewhere in the 4000's foot long range. The tag line that we used back then was 3/4's of a mile long. I do have the exact number somewhere but do not know where at the moment. I do have vert. profile of the ride and need to find my old metric scale, moved to a new house.

On the NL, a couple of corrections, after passing around the lift the ride takes a dive turn (basically a 360 degree turn but very tight and has a bigger drop then the first), the helixes does not cross the second hill, and the tunnel is on the outside of the tracks of the first section of the ride.

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Friday, November 11, 2005 10:31 PM
Do you mean, the big helix doesn't cross under the THIRD hill? As it sure looked like did in the POV on the ACE Coaster Con video. I'm having trouble understanding your clarifications, but much appreciate them. I'd really like to get a solid model down. This one was a first-attempt when I was just starting out in NL a few years back.

EDIT: I just reviewed the POV again. I'm pretty certain I have all of the cross-overs correct. The elevation and radius if the turns is another story. That pic isn't very clear, but the final curve of the big helix is above the straight dip after the spiral drop off of the lift turnaround. And according to the POV, the outside of the big helix does cross under the third drop of the ride.

EDIT 2: I changed the pic on the link to a plan-view of the model so you can see the cross-overs better. I think some of the supports were throwing off the eyes in the previous pic.

http://hometown.aol.com/matt515o/myhomepage/photo.html *** Edited 11/12/2005 4:18:52 AM UTC by Acoustic Viscosity***

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Friday, November 11, 2005 11:16 PM
Yes it does cross just looked funny. That section was hidden from view and it has been a while since I walked tack!

It is hard to explain the other changes but I will try, the tunnel track parallels the first set of turns on the outside of the turns as opposed to inside as shown, also exits the tunnel as it is still in the turn by about 20'.

High speed turn started on the section that goes around the lift. About 180 degrees from the point it starts to go around the lift. It then does a very steep drop and turn and comes back over 360 degrees to where it started. I believe you show it but have the shape a little off. It exits into a straight away that put it in the center of the second helix.

If I can get the picture scanned I will put it online someday.

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Friday, November 11, 2005 11:24 PM
OK, so the tunnel is on the "Mamba" side of the the big horseshoe drop/turnaround? I wasn't sure about that one. But looks like the placesment of everything else ris ight, just needs slid around a bit. :)
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Friday, November 11, 2005 11:42 PM
BTW, Guide To Ride (Before there was RCDB, there was ACE's Guide To Ride) says Zinger was 4,200 feet long with a 70' lift. I'm not saying these are hard facts, but ya know..

Working on Zinger 2.0 right now. :)

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:31 PM
Anton didn't need enormous track length, because he KNEW how to use "slower sections" (i.e., elevated track) to generate airtime...hitting the crest of the hill with enough speed to POP the train into the air. Also, whenever an Anton slows down, you look ahead to the next section of track and see you're getting either another sweet dose of airtime or one of those PERFECT tummy-tickling loops...

We miss you Anton!

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:01 PM
I got one more figure for track length from the park that currently operates the Zinger. It claims that it has 1050 meters of track or 3445 feet of track in our terms. It also says the speed is 80KPH or 50 MPH. I found this info and some new pictures of Zinger at http://www.parquenacionaldelcafe.com:8083/controlatraccion?comando=consultaratraccion&AtraccionNombre=1 . *** Edited 11/12/2005 6:02:34 PM UTC by Sawblade5***
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