I think the money spent on the heartline roll on Hades would have been better spent on completely retracking the ride.
However no matter the roughness I do want to try this out someday.
The retracked parts of Hades 360 were actually smooth, just the pre-lift hill part of ride is rough, I think its the Timeberliner restraints - getting jolted up to them is painfull whereas the previous PTC trains it wasn't.
From what I remember, the other rough part of Hades was the helix part near the end, and that has been retracted too and was smooth.
I really can't believe half the stuff Im reading and someone knowing what they think is their favorite from Youtube or golden tickets is just fantasy land at best. If thats the case I would have flat out loved Boulderdash that was just to me a half a good coaster when I rode it.
SOB was a steel structure support loop with 13 layer wooden track bolted to it. Same as Hades 360. RMC's Topper I would still consider wood as you ride on steel ribbons anyway but the single running wheel, guide wheel and upstop maintain wood standards (Some steel mine trains do as well.)
I've heard nothing but raves about Outlaw Run and good for them. To me it looks a bit short and I think sometimes they do the over-bank just to say they've done it but the ride looks stellar. IDK, I'll have to ride it.
Hades was always shaky after the return camel-back. I find that happens a lot on many lateral sections of coasters where the guide wheels are riding and hitting all the gaps. Voyage does bad on the return run around the lift hill prior to dropping into the station tunnel. Thunderhead does it a lot as well but it isn't ROUGH, A bit annoying but not rough.
Im interested to hear what the person didn't like about the timberliners, Especially if they rode Hades in its previous form?
ChuckLast edited by Charles Nungester, Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:03 PM
Somebody done gone and pee'd in Chuck's cornflakes.
Charles Nungester said:
SOB was a steel structure support loop with 13 layer wooden track bolted to it. Same as Hades 360.
Except it's not. SOB's loop structure was a traditional steel spine with steel ties like most steel coasters. Hades' loop structure is supported by the same kind of bents typical of most any wood coaster, whether the support structure is steel or wood. The track itself is like any other traditional wood coaster.
It's still rough though and zap them staff already they can't even speak English. Holiday World please take over Mt. Olympus.Last edited by Grant, Monday, June 3, 2013 1:54 AM
What's speaking English have to do with anything. What does Holiday World have to do with Mt Olympus? I wonder if there are non-English-speaking persons working at Holiday world? What's with people trolling for arguments on CB lately?
What's with people accusing people of trolling?
I was making a comment that Mt. Olympus which has a looping wooden coaster is poorly run and operated and Holiday World is well operated so if they took it over then maybe the park would be better. I prefer wood to steel so a park with four woodies like Mt Olympus should be enjoyable for me, yet all the coasters are poorly maintained and rough and the staff are inefficient and unfriendly.
As for speaking English, if I ask a question to a ride operator and they can't answer me because they can't speak the native language then that is worrying. What if I had an emergency? And if I was riding in a country whose native language is not English then that would be my choice.
English is not the official language of America. Not everyone in our country speaks English. Because this is a forum about roller coasters, I feel that your comment was an attempt to troll for an argument. You should seek discussion about those on Topix or Craigslist. I do not like to read racist comments on the internet.
You could have left out the ignorant crap about English, but then your comment would be, "It's still rough though."
I dunno. My guess is Holiday World's got enough going on right now without looking to take on someone else's problems.
Grant, the fact that they don't speak English doesn't make them unfriendly. What if I said I was using google translate because I normally speak Spanish? It also makes any park's ride ops look awful comparing them to Holiday World.
It's still rough though and zap them staff already they can't even speak English.
There's some irony for you.
What's with people trolling for arguments on CB lately?
You tell us.
I do not like to read racist comments on the internet.
And I don't like being called racist either when I'm not. I am sick of people crying racism over the slightest little comment. She was actually European, as I am.
I just prefer if someone gives instructions in a language rather than being pointed into a seat and pointed to the exit.
What if there is an emergency? How is she going to instruct people on an emergency procedure. She was the only ride operator on that roller coaster.
And a smile is universal. Something all the ride operators at that park were lacking.
Nothing Grant said was remotely racist. And if someone is working in a position where they are responsible for the safety of the people they're working around, it's usually a good idea to at least be able to speak the local language, official or not.
Granted, this may have just been a case of a rude employee, and Mt. O isn't known for it's great employee practices, but to accuse someone of being racist goes way too far, IMO, especially when nothing was said about the person's race or even gender.
That's trolling for an arguement.
Okay. Point taken. I am "sensitive" to negative comments about the language that people speak, because they usually derive from racist feelings and are used to try and rally support for racist beliefs. I'll stop now.
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