The Villain is NOT a bad guy!

I don't understand why I see so many complaints about The Villain. It's very tall for a woodie, has great air, tracks well, has great air, good laterals on the turnarounds, and has GREAT air for a wooden coaster. Definitely not the wildest CCI, but nevertheless a very fun woodie. Considering the care that RWB has gotten, I can't believe people don't complain about that ride instead. Was once a really good ride from what I hear, but I was WAY less impreesed by RWB as compared to the Villian...he's a good guy in disguise!
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*** This post was edited by gatorwoodie on 9/4/2001. ***

Villian is good if your only 4 feet tall!I am 6'7" and did not enjoy it.I spent the whole ride try to keep my knee's from getting destroyed.A short person had to design those trains.

Yo G-Force that is really tall! But don't refer to us as "short people" we're average!

I'm 6'1" and I was locked! I had to raise my lap bar ridiculously high to get even the slightest glimpse of the airtime.

Yeah the ride is wonderful but the trains do stink like garbage. They're plastic, uncomfortable, and it hurts my legs going around the turns. Down with Gerstauler's!!!!!!! Down with Gerstauler's!!!!!!!
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sigh, SFNE goes "tiny" for 2001

The Villain is great. And (obviously) my favorite coaster. Don't knock the Villain. It is worthy of much praise.

The Villain rules! How can you diss the Villain!? Airtime, the laterals what else can be added in it's small footprint? The trains are fine, even though they are G-Trains, the trains ride very nicely for the coaster, but PTC's would rock on the Villain! :)
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Villian in the rain, my first wooden coaster. :) Never diss the Villian. Very cool ride. I personally like it's trains. Also, no one's forcing you to ride Villian (or RWB, read my sig ;) )
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What's wrong wit Raging Wolf Bobs?! I loved that ride! Fast, fun, smooth, great turns.....a very fun wooden coaster! That and Mean Streak...two great wooden coasters who get a bad reputation. I have never understood why.

Anyways, DOWN WITH GERSTLAUER is right! Those dang German's should die for their sins to the coaster industry. The ride would be great of they put normal PTC trains on.

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I don't care much for the Gerstlauers, either. It's odd, though, that they run them on The Legend, and I never hear people complain.

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So many coasters - so little time.

The Villain really is more of a downgraded "wannabe" model of GhostRider. If you take a look at the two, you can see that The Villain borrowed a lot from GhostRider's once unique double out and back 'L' shaped layout with the turaround by the lift. But between these two western characters, GhostRider makes the REAL steal.

I think it would be better if it had wooden supports instead of steel. I think it looks funny on wooden coasters to have steel supports. I heard it is cheaper to do it with steel. I have never been on it, but next summer, I may be going out to Ohio to go coasting, so I can ride it!
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I am a real fan of Gerslauer, I really am. Front seat is very cool because of the amount you can see due to the "cage" in the front which allows you an unobstructed view of the track.

Aside from liking the trains, it has great pacing and delivers some wicked airtime. Though I will admit that Ghostrider took my beloved Villain's spot as # 1 on my wood coaster list.

Real enthusiasts don't cry about Gerstlauers. Villain is world class.

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The Villain is a really good coaster, but since it was my first CCI, I used to like it better than I do now. This summer, I rode Shivering Timbers and Cornball Express for the first time, and those showed me really the kind of magic CCI is capable of producing. Villain is a very solid coaster though, and it is still my favorite ride at SFWoA. Heck, it is the only real reason I opted to go to SFWoA instead of CP a few times this summer (that is, after I rode X-Flight once), even though CP is practically in my backyard!

As for the Gerstlauer trains, I really don't see what the problem is. I personally prefer PTC's like ST has (without the Volvo headrests and with padded seats), but G-trains are just fine. I think they look better than PTC's but I prefer PTC's lapbars.

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It's a simple equation: CCI + CP = #1 Wooden Coaster!

To me the Villain seems to be the epitome of a "good" coaster." I had fun while I was on it, the air was decent, but overall, it didn't blow me away. The layout is great, but I got stapled on my first ride, so the airtime was minimal. I thought that it was better than RWB. The trains don't suck, but they don't rock either. I would still take a rough and tumble PTC.

Anyways, where is the love for the Big Dipper? That ride just blew me away. How a coaster that is so small can be so fast, long, and full of air is beyond me. I seem to hear a lot of complaints about those trains, but I see nothing wrong with them.

The Villain is a great ride, it's a roller coaster afterall. Be thankful that there is such a thing as the Villain instead of bashing it.

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Please disregard anything said by me that is incomprehensible, incoherent, or just dumb. I am and will be drained from the arduous school year, thank you!

I agree, Villain is the best ride at SFWoA IMO.. and it was my #1 coaster until S:ros@SFNE knocked it out of place... Villain is an AMAZING ride and I can't wait to ride more CCI's :). It is definitly the best woodie I have ever been on and an awesome experience, expecially at night!

Alan Jacyszyn

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SFWoA.com said:
The Villain rules! How can you diss the Villain!? Airtime, the laterals what else can be added in it's small footprint?
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PTC's .......they would be a great addition to this small footprint...

I also agree Villain, was my favorite ride at SFWOA this year. I for one actually thought the trains were sweet, and were comfortable. The air was great and it was pretty smooth although it had some roughness like a woody should have to make it worth you while. Great Ride!

I for one find it funny how much praise Raven gets and how much bashing Villain gets because of its trains when they both have the same train.

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I really like Villain and I don't dislike the Gerstlauers, though my 5'8" height may help that.