The Quest for the Ultimate Rush – Part 5
“Head up. Arms out. Legs back. Banana!”
Today was the day. The only day of this entire trip that I actually had a schedule.
My alarm clock woke me up to the sound of a woman talking about news.
“It appears the Ohio highway shooter has struck again. Twice. Both shootings took place 30 miles south of Columbus…..”
Living in Columbus right now is a bit scary. Out of the over 20 shootings that have taken place, more than half of them have been within a few miles of my home. Three of them within a mile. As expected, our news in Columbus right now is centered on this sniper. It was nice to do most of the trip without even hearing a mention on the news about the shootings. I was surprised to hear something about it out west. I guess this was bigger news than I thought.
I couldn’t dwell on what this news was I had bigger things to think about, one being my appointment with Sky Dive Las Vegas. When I started planning this trip, I asked a few people who I knew would be interested in diving to see if they would join me. Bad timing played a role here as everyone decided now was not a good time.
If you have been reading these reports, you will remember my mention about a group of us trying to go skydiving last August. What I didn’t mention was the strange, and humorous, “signs” we all picked up on almost telling us not to jump that week. There were 4 total.
1. We flipped on the television in our hotel. The first thing we see was a segment of an episode of C.S.I or some crime drama. The story apparently was about a skydive gone bad in some way. Needless to say, we didn’t watch much.
2. The next morning we flipped on the TV again. Once again, the first thing we see is a movie featuring Charlie Sheen (I believe it was called Terminal Velocity) in which a woman doesn’t open her chute on the way down and……well, you get the picture.
3. The morning of the attempted skydive our group went out to breakfast in a food court located in the Excalibur hotel. I looked over while I was eating and saw a fortune telling machine. I went over and put in a quarter and it spit out a yellow ticket. The first words on the ticket were, “You are not in control of your fate today. You will be in a tidy atmosphere” This could have been bad or good depending on your view. We all got a laugh out of it.
4. The last thing actually is the thing that prevented us from jumping. A sudden burst of high winds that didn’t die down the rest of the time we were in Las Vegas. Even the skydiving crew was a bit baffled as the forecast predicted virtually no winds the entire day.
So why did I share this with you? Well, I just wanted to put into perspective how we all felt during that time. No, I don’t believe something was telling us not to jump, but then again, you never know. Bwa ha ha ha ha!
Luckily though, I didn’t notice any signs or anything like that. The only thing preventing me from jumping today was high winds, or if I didn’t think I had it in me to jump. Don’t get me wrong, I wanted to jump more than anything, but I still had a runny nose and I wasn’t sure if that would play a factor in jumping as the instructors do require everyone to be in a healthy state. I guess I would find out when I got there.
Barry decided to sleep in this morning which meant I would be going out to Boulder City by myself. I think this worked out best for me as I didn’t have anyone around me being nervous. Even I wasn’t nervous, I thought I would be feeling some sort of nervousness on the drive out there like I did last August, but I didn’t. I felt totally calm. Perhaps listening to the CD “Lost Souls” by the band Doves had something to do with that as it always puts me in a mellow mood.
I thought there would be some heavy traffic on the way so I left a bit early. I didn’t have to be there until 9:00am but I ended up getting there around 8:20 do to a lack of traffic. Once I arrived, I was told I would have to take the training class again as I didn’t jump last August. I had no problem with that as the more info I could get, the better.
I walked into the training room and there were 2 other future jumpers watching the last half of the training video. I was told to watch the last half with them then they would rewind it to the beginning so I could watch the first half. I also had to fill out 4 more pages of release paperwork. I chatted a bit with the jumpers in the room. Neither of them had jumped before and they were clearly nervous.
An instructor walked into the room and asked us a question. He said that a woman was on her way to jump, but she was running a bit late. If we decided to wait for another 15 minutes or so until she arrived, we could all hop into the larger plane and jump out a different way. I thought this would be cool but it wasn’t meant to be as the two pre-jumpers mentioned they had to go to work in two hours and didn’t want to take any chances on waiting it out. That meant they would both be going up in the small Cessna as it only holds a total of 5 people (2 jumpers. 2 instructors. 1 pilot.) I would probably be going with the woman that was running late.
After the jumpers had finished filling out their paperwork, the instructor had everyone lay flat on a small table and practice our exit position. He also explained that it sometimes is hard to breathe like you normally do while in free fall as all that wind is trying to go into your mouth. Some people try not to breathe but that obviously isn’t a good thing. He recommended having everyone yell while they were in free fall as this is a natural way to breathe. I had no problem remember that as I expected to be yelling anyway in some way or form.
As the two jumpers exited, I was left in the room to watch the first half of the video by myself. Once I was done, I watched as the jumpers hopped onto the plane with their instructors and took to the skies. During this time I also was getting ready to be suited up and got to chat with some of the crew. As with last August, everyone was so nice and down to earth. I was amazed at how many jumps everyone had. Simon, one of the instructors that currently was up in the plane is the 6th ranked jumper on the planet for number of jumps. He had jumped over 14,000 times! I guess this really could be addictive.
I was told to put all my belongings in a locker and this also meant my jacket. After paying my fees I put everything in the locker including my jacket. One of the instructors threw me a sweatshirt and told me to put it on over my t-shirt as it was going to be cold up there. He also gave me two pairs of thick gloves.
A few minutes later I looked up and could see two parachutes. The two jumpers had successfully jumped and were preparing to land. Just around this time, as luck would have it, the wind really started to pick up. One of the jumpers had a perfect landing but the other one had a strange landing. Just as they were about to land the wind changed directions and they were sent straight down instead of a nice angle so they could glide in. They weren’t injured or anything but Simon wasn’t exactly happy as he wanted a better landing.
As they were walking back in I asked the jumper how it was. Both of them had large grins and couldn’t put into words what they had just gone through. I was really starting to get anxious and couldn’t wait to go. As I was chatting with them, I saw an instructor come over to me. I asked him if I was jumping with him.
“I don’t know. Maybe. What do you think?” in a sarcastic kind of way.
I told him I was willing to bet I was jumping with him. He told me I was right and began finishing up adjusting my jump suit. As he was finishing, Simon came over and told him that the winds were picking up rapidly but everything was fine until about the last 1,000 feet or so where the winds were pretty wicked. I could tell I was very close to being denied a jump but I didn’t want to think about it. I mean, I did have another full day in the area tomorrow but the forecast was for a windy day so this could have been my only chance I had left.
My jump instructor introduced himself.
“What’s up dude? My name is Archie. I have to check on something and I will be right back.”
He left to go check on the wind situation and soon came back out. He claimed that the wind was picking up and we only had a small window to try and attempt to jump but we were going to go for it.
“Um, ok. So how close are we to being denied a jump?” I asked.
Archie replied with, “About 5 miles an hour. Don’t worry though, we will call back down once we get up to our jumping altitude and make sure the wind is good Are you ready? Let’s go take an air bath!”
We went over to a mock up of a Cessna and I practiced my exit rather quickly before we walked out to the already running Cessna and hopped in. Archie had a small video camera attached to his arm with a very large wide angle lens so it could pick up everything. This plane had no seats other than the pilots so I sat on the floor next to the pilot facing towards the back of the plane. Archie strapped me in, secured himself, and we were soon taking off down the runway.
It only took a few hundred feet for us to leave the runway and climb for another 15 minutes or so. Archie took this time to chat with me a bit. He asked me how I was doing. I told him that for some reason I wasn’t the least bit nervous. Honestly, I don’t know what it was. Perhaps I just didn’t have time to think about it but I was very calm. I love flying, falling, and heights so I wasn’t having any problem enjoying the view but I didn’t look for long. Archie started recording on his camera and had me mention what I had just said about not being nervous.
“I will be nervous for the both of us.” Archie said in response.
“Why is that?” I asked.
“Because I get paid to” he said.
I also took this time to chat with the pilot considering he was less than a foot away from me. I asked him how many times he has jumped. He said only twice but it was incredible. He described it as very surreal and dream-like. I was about to find out first hand exactly what it would feel like as I thought we were getting close.
Archie pointed out the Vegas strip and the Hoover Dam. Just as I glanced down out the window, the pilot made a call back down to the airport to see what the winds were like. They had died down enough for us to jump and we had just about reached our jumping altitude. Archie told me to sit on my feet so he could finish connecting things up. We then waited for the magical words.
“Alright! You are clear!” said the pilot
Archie opened up the door and a strong blast of cold wind rushed in. I couldn’t believe it. It got very cold, very fast. I mean, what do you expect? We were 15,000 feet up in the sky after all.
Just as instructed in the class, I was given the go to put my right foot out on a small ledge that is over one of the wheels but had to do so with my arms crossed and my left knee on the edge of the plane. This was my first real look at what 15,000 feet looks with nothing below you. I couldn’t believe the view. I could see the Vegas strip to the left and Lake Mead off to the right. This also was the moment where I finally realized I was going through with the crazy idea of jumping out of a plane.
I watched as I could see the plane I was just in fade away as we kind of did a flip. Archie tapped me on the shoulder signifying that was the time to get into the free fall position which is arms out to the sides of your head but bent in a bit, legs kicked back so they hit you in your own rear, head back and body arched like a banana. This provides a stable position for free fall and a great way for first time jumpers to really feel everything about the jump.
I couldn’t believe the sensation of what I was feeling. This was beyond anything I have felt ever before. It’s very hard to put into words although my first words were pretty profane. You have the wind rushing all around you like mad, but the first couple of thousand feet are a bit confusing as it is total sensory overload and it doesn’t feel like you are falling but rather floating with a lot of wind around you. It’s a very strange yet very, very, cool sensation.
My goggles must have not been on tight enough as they were slowly moving up my face so I took one hand to adjust them. Once I adjusted them for a better view, I could now tell we were falling as I could see the mountains around us rushing up at us. That is when I realized just how fast we were falling. There was nothing between us and the ground and we were heading towards it at 120 miles per hour. I wasn’t worried in the least though as this free fall sensation takes every worry you may have about the fall, and throws it away. To be honest, it was very peaceful.
We continued to fall for about a minute before Archie pulled the ripcord. I was wondering what the shock of the chute opening would feel like. As instructed, I grabbed onto my harness as the chute opened. I didn’t know it at the time but Archie had put his hand on my harness so my left hand was grabbing into his hand to brace for the chute shock. The shock wasn’t anything like I thought it would be. I heard the chute opening before I felt it so I prepared for a large jolt or something but it really wasn’t that bad but I was surprised at how quite it got. I mean, almost instantly it went from a rushing wind, to a very quiet kind whoosh sound, then total silence.
“You can let go of my hand now.” Archie said once the chute opened.
“Woops. I’m sorry” I said.
More profane words came out of my mouth as I couldn’t believe what an incredible rush that was. We still were 5,000 feet above the ground and had another 6 minutes or so to enjoy the view before we landed. Archie let me control the chute for a few minutes. It is very easy to control. You want to go left? Just tug left on the toggle. You want to go right? Tug right? Want to go straight? Put both arms up. It was very easy and very smooth. During one point Archie told me to look up at the camera and pull hard on the right toggle. This made us two a couple of super sharp right hand spins. I was amazed at the G’s felt while doing this. For some reason, I didn’t expect to feel anything like that. Archie also loosened up my restraint a bit to make it even more comfortable. The whole air cruise portion of this jump was super relaxing.
My ears continued to pop on the way down. As we were in free fall, they must have popped 7 or 8 times. Things were still pretty quiet but each 500 feet or so, things became louder with each pop. Archie told me to aim for a golf course we could see a few thousand feet below. Next to it was the airport and where our landing area was. Once we were closer, Archie took over to prepare us for our landing. As Simon said, I could tell the wind was more severe at the lower levels as it felt like we lifted up a couple of times.
To brace for landing I was instructed to lift my legs up but bent, toes up and to hit the ground with my feet, then sit back like I am sitting in a chair once my feet hit the ground. Once I saw the ground coming up, I got into position and prepared for the landing. Our feet hit first then Archie told me to sit down and I did as instructed. That was it. It wasn’t rough. It was very smooth. It was almost like sitting down in a chair. Three of the staff “shaggers” quickly grabbed our chute so we wouldn’t drift.
It was over.
My nose was dripping a bit but not much. My lips were really cold and felt chapped. Even though I had on two pairs of gloves, my fingers were freezing. Other than those few things I felt totally awesome. I couldn’t believe it. I felt so incredible. I have never felt a high like this before. Never. Not even after doing a bungy jump or SCAD dive. There really is nothing like it. As we were walking back to the hanger, I talked with one of the staff. He told me I would probably feel a sharp pain behind my ears in about 3 hours but I shouldn’t be worried. I asked him why causes it.
He said, “It’s because that huge grin on your face won’t leave”.
I laughed at that one. He was right. I couldn’t stop smiling. Once back in the hanger, I took off my jumpsuit and talked with the staff a bit more. They have many video options to choose from but I wanted a Mini DV copy instead of a DVD or picture CD. Since they were caught up on things for the time being, they told me that if I waited a while I could have my video today instead of them mailing it to me. I had no problem with that.
I told Archie when I got back that I thought he had the coolest job in the world. One of the other jumpers told me that skydiving is either something you love or something you hate. It usually only takes one jump before you are hooked and that is what happened. I can’t stop thinking about it. I told Simon I could easily see how he got 14,000 jumps in and that I couldn’t wait for my next jump. Simon looked up at me and said, “Well then, it looks like I may have some competition in the future. It’s great isn’t it?”
Now that I have done one jump, I know what to expect. I thought I knew what to expect before we jumped but I was way off. I didn’t know it was going to be as incredible as it was. I didn’t know how peaceful it was going to be. I didn’t know it wasn’t nearly as scary as I thought it would be. One thing that really caught me off guard about the free fall was the different sensation. I originally thought I would have the same sensation jumping out of a plane as I would on a drop ride. You know that stomach drop sensation? You don’t get that when you jump out of a plane. I asked Archie about this and he said it was because we were already moving fast before we jumped. If I were to jump out of a hot air balloon or a helicopter in a static position, I would get that feeling but not from a plane. I guess that makes sense. The sensation jumping out of a plane is totally different and stronger and I found it even more enjoyable.
As I was done in the hanger they asked me to sign their guestbook. I wrote down my name and where I was from as well as “Best thing ever. I will be back!” You can bet on it. I plan on skydiving any chance I get when I am in Las Vegas. Next time will be cheaper for me as well. I am already looking into jumping in Ohio the summer but I don’t think anything will compare to jumping out in the desert where everything is so crisp looking.
Ahhhh. What a morning. I was so happy. Once I gathered my belongings, picked up my video of my jump, and said goodbye to Archie and the rest of the kind staff, I hopped back into my car and made my way back to Las Vegas. As I was told, I couldn’t stop smiling. Today was a great day and it wasn’t over.
As I got back to my room, I noticed Barry wasn’t around. I called him on his cell phone and he was out walking around the strip. We agreed to meet at a food court across from NY NY. I didn’t eat before my jump so I was pretty hungry at this time. There weren’t any breakfast places in this food court so I opted for pizza while I waited for Barry. Once Barry showed up he wanted to hear about my jump. We ended up going back to the room where I showed him my video. We really didn’t have any plans for the rest of the day so I decided to take a nap for a couple of hours even though I was still wired. Barry continued to walk down the strip. Once I woke up, Barry was back and wanted to know if I knew what the name of the place was in Vegas that had a kiddie coaster. He meant Las Vegas Mini Grand Prix.
I had been to this place last year and rode their kiddie coaster while a bunch of parents stared and watched. It was pretty embarrassing but it was funny at the same time. Barry wanted to head to go check it out so we drove out so he could get his ride. Once we got there we realized Barry didn’t have to go through the embarrassment of riding it while a bunch of parents looked on as there was basically no one here. I didn’t ride but watched Barry take his solo ride.
One of the ride operators came over to me and asked me why Barry was riding such a small coaster. I just explained to him that Barry wanted to ride every coaster in Las Vegas and that was the last one on his list. The operator thought that was cool and asked me how many coasters were in the area. After Barry’s multi-lap ride was over, we headed back into the arcade where tickets are sold and I played a quick game of DDR. Soon after, we headed back to the strip to find something to eat.
The rest of the day was kind of eventful, or so I thought. A few people had called me and left messages to see if I went through with my jump so I spent some time calling them back. I talked with Sean Winder who told me what had happened to his phone and that he was back in California and was sorry he didn’t get to jump with me. As it turns out, he was in the Luxor right across the street from where we were staying but he left just as we arrived in Vegas after our weekend jaunt to California. He said that if I had any extra cash I should go check out the Blue Man Group show at Luxor as it was amazing.
I know Barry had seen the show a few years back and raved about it, but to be honest, I am not a show kind of guy. I love concerts but Vegas shows are just not my type of thing. I really didn’t know much about the Blue Man Group and I wasn’t going to spend the extra dough to check the show out considering I didn’t know much about it. To me, it sounded like just a typical Vegas show.
After I got off the phone with Sean, I asked Barry if he wanted to walk around in some of the casinos. He kind of hesitated at first but then said, “Yea, let’s go.” He suggested we walk through Excalibur which we did. We went upstairs through the food court. As we were walking through it I saw the same fortune telling machine that I tried out last August but I didn’t get a fortune this day. Everything was good. I forgot to mention that right before I went on this trip I checked out the horoscope section in a TV guide for the week. For Virgo it read something about “you are about to embark on a big adventure. Don’t let fear get to you and stop you. You will be glad you did.” Hmmm. Maybe there is something to those things after all. =-:^)
We continued to walk through the Excalibur and into Luxor. As we were walking through Luxor I saw the ad for the Blue Man Group show. I told Barry that Sean Winder told me the show was incredible and if I had the extra cash, I should go check it out. Barry kind of gave me a kind of “I told you so” kind of look but didn’t really say anything.
We walked until we reached a sort of dead end. It looked like a box office or something with doors leading into a large area. There were a ton of people walking in so I almost stopped and started to head in the other direction when Barry said something.
“When you were taking a nap, I went down and put one dollar in a slot machine to see what would happen. With that one dollar I won $150 so tonight you and I are seeing Blue Man Group.”
“WHAT? Are you serious? You are kidding right?” I said.
“Nope.” Barry said
He then hands me my ticket for the show. He knew we were going for most of the day but didn’t lead on to anything. It was just by chance that Sean Winder mentioned the show to me when he did. Barry played if off in style. This was one of the coolest surprises I have ever gotten. I honestly didn’t know what to say.
We walked into the theater instantly and were led to our seats. I couldn’t believe the size of the place and was then very anxious to see what the show was like. We had great seats. Barry is the coolest. If there was one show he thought I would dig, this was it. For those that haven’t seen it or don’t know anything about it, I won’t spoil anything about what happens before, during, or after it. Let’s just say I was totally blown away. I loved every minute of it. Barry was right. It was my kind of show. I had no idea what to expect and was floored. Just as with skydiving, I will be back to check out this show.
After the show was over I thanked Barry probably 100 times. I just couldn’t believe it. That was so cool of him to do that. We then went back to the Tropicana and watched an episode of “My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiancé “or whatever it’s called. Funny stuff!
Man. What a day. This was easily one of the best days of my life and I look forward to doing it again. It’s moments like these that make life good. I have heard a few people say it before but it’s true. Everyone dies. Not everyone lives.
For those of you putting off seeing Blue Man Group because you don’t know what to expect, DON’T! You will love it. If you love music, rhythm and heavy visuals, you will love this show.
Those of you wanted to skydive but don’t know what to expect. Go! Do it. Trust me when I say I have the strongest feeling that you will love it just as much as I did. It’s better than anything I have done. Anything.
Sure, I may have found my quest for my ultimate rush but I still had another full day in Vegas so I still have another report to share so don’t leave just yet. There is more to come. (Why does that sound like a TV show?)
Hanging out 900 feet for the second time, and a bad mistake.
Thanks for reading,
P.S. Thanks to the efforts of Skydiving Jeff, my skydiving video is available for download at this site.
As soon as you click on the link, the video should start to play but if it doesn't, you can click on another link if you want to save it to your computer. Be warned though as it is a large file (57 meg) but the quality is good.
The video also contains strong language. You might want to turn the volume down if anyone is sensitive to strong language as soon as the free fall begins. =:^)
. *** Edited 2/21/2004 3:15:57 AM UTC by Sean Flaharty***
Glad to hear you liked the Blue Man Group. It never really interested me but if it's as awesome as STOMP! then I will check it out when I have the chance.
Yes, I consider that show another reason to get back to Vegas. It's that damn good.
I have to ask, though (minor possible spoiler alert) -- did you have "poncho" seats? Wnen Andrea and I went, we were front row, center. Great seats. There were certain bits I was hoping would be carried over from the original show, and I wasn't disappointed.
I still haven't been able to catch the touring rock show, but I've been told by friends who have that it's different and very well worthwhile as well.
I also still have to see the Chicago and Boston productions. In an ideal world, I'd catch the Berlin one as well.
Tina -- as good as Stomp is, Blue Man buries it, in my opinion.
--Greg, who also wants to try skydiving someday. *** Edited 2/19/2004 2:36:35 AM UTC by GregLeg***
Yeah, I have heard of the poncho seats from another friend who sent it. lol.
Great Story! It sounds like you had an incredible time. I remember my first tandem jump a few years ago, and how exciting it was to experience the thrill of freefall for the first time. Let me tell you dude -- nearly 600 jumps later, and it NEVER gets boring. Just like riding roller coasters, where factors such as the people you're with to even the weather can have a major influence on your enjoyment even if you've ridden the same thing dozens of times, there's no limit to the sport of skydiving. Even the best flyers in the world (with several thousands of jumps) are still learning new ways to fly their bodies, and the entire skydiving subculture and community is outstanding.
I almost feel bad that you had to jump out of the cramped Cessna, although I suppose there is a certain "intimacy" one can only get by being stuffed inside an already-cramped cabin for an absurdly long time. I'm sure the view more than made up for it though -- I've never jumped in Las Vegas, but I've made about 100 in Arizona; the mountains and crisp air are truly unique and picturesque. Still, think about where you want to do your next one. Ohio is nice (if you don't mind staring at flat fields for as far as the eye can see), or you can travel more towards the East closer to more cool terrain. If you (or anyone else from cbuzz) wants to come up to Frontier Skydivers near Niagara Falls this spring or early summer, I'll even jump with 'ya!
Again, congrats on your first one, it's definitely a big accomplishment. I love watching people's first jump; I jumped with Matt (mdomnis) on his first tandem, and he said (and I quote): "that was better than Magnum!" He'll deny everything, but I'm fairly certain he wasn't kidding. Still waiting for (ST) Kara, though! ;)
Thanks for sharing that awesome conclusion to what sounded like a perfect adventure. P.S. - I've got plenty of website space if you wanted me to host your video for a while; PM or IM me if you're interested. Gotta love extreme university bandwidth along with a web server in your living room.
My freefall gallery
I stayed at the Luxor in November and my wife and I had planned to see the Vegas show, but tickets were something like $90... way more than we had expected. The Chicago show was $50.
Sean, you should take more trips so we all can have something to read in the mornings! Skydiving sounds great. I don't think my wife would let me do it though. :)
Congrats on the BIG jump. Now it's MY turn. ;)
Skydiving is one of my life goals. I hope to do (a real, not a ride) bungee jump somewhere too.
I'll be nervous as heck about the skydiving though, and would probably miss my exit window.:)
I know you would love to skydive. It's incredible as I mentioned above. Words honestly can't describe it.
I didn't get to sit in the poncho seats but I was kind of close to them. I was in row J. I would love loved to sit down in those seats though.
I am glad someone else can relate to what I am talking about as far as how quiet it got so quickly. I couldn't believe it. Thanks.
Thanks dude! 600 jumps? Damn! I can't wait for my second alone my 600th. Thanks for the offer to host my video. I will send you a message in a few. I would love to head up North and jump in that area. Anyone else game?
I just checked out your site. WOW! Those are some awesome pics. I loved that helicopter video also. It actually brought on some of the feeling I had when I jumped. No joke!
I have plenty more trips planned this year so you never know when I am going to do another TR.
Thanks for checking it out dude. I am sure you would really love skydiving as I don't know anyone that has hated it.
You should not (sorry pinkdoom) have to worry about missing your window as your jump master will make sure you jump when you are supposed to.
-Sean *** Edited 2/20/2004 4:09:38 AM UTC by Sean Flaharty*** *** Edited 2/20/2004 4:18:10 AM UTC by Sean Flaharty***
Sean Flaharty said:
You should have to worry about missing your window as your jump master will make sure you jump when you are supposed to.
Sean Flaharty said:
I didn't get to sit in the poncho seats but I was kind of close to them. I was in row J. I would love loved to sit down in those seats though.
You probably actually had an easier time seeing some of the stuff going on, though. I know by the end of the show my neck was getting a bit sore from looking up (ok, Andrea and I are also both short ;) )
I know there's a lot of Vegas fans here at CB and just wanted to point you all to an interesting thread at the Travel2Vegas message board...read past the first few posts to see the debate beginning. It's a fun board generally, you may want to check it out sometime. *** Edited 2/20/2004 4:18:53 PM UTC by dawnmarie313***
Let's not spoil the whole show, though :)
That whole paper thing blew me away. I am glad they are continuing to use that in other cities.
Great TR Sean. You have a gift for storytelling unrivaled on here.
AWESOME pics indeed. I have plans on visiting your neck of the woods this year so I will keep in touch! Thanks for offering!
-Sean *** Edited 2/21/2004 3:16:43 AM UTC by Sean Flaharty***
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