The end of coaster snobbery as we've known it

I have to say that I was really impressed with the Discovery Channel shows this year. Watching the first two shows, you'll notice that no one is wearing a coaster t-shirt, or what I would call the stereotypical ACE gear.

Then I was really blown away by Elissa and Ian's show where you learned all about layout and design, and important historical coasters. You could show or give that tape to a non-enthusiast, and within one hour, they could take in everything you've ever tried to talk to them about or tried teaching them. I can tell you from traveling around Texas and talking to people on airplanes, that a lot of people watch those shows on Memorial Day weekend.

Before, maybe they felt that couldn't relate to being an enthusiast because it looked like a geek hobby that a small minority particpated in. Now they'll realize that it could be them who are enjoying the rides and knowing something about what they're riding. This is quite possibly the best thing to ever happen to our community.

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2002, the year the Six Flags America bashing stops.

Yes, I agree.

However, when I was part of the promotion for the new X-Flight at Six Flags Worlds of Avdenture, I was specifically told before my arrival at the park that I was to wear NO name brand logos, park insignia, coaster gear, etc. My thinking is that such people wearing this forementioned apparel will not be included in taping.

Yes, there is nothing wrong with showing how crazy you go on Coasters and how crazy you go on them, but thank god no ' AIRTIME CITY, YES INDEEDY, THIS IS MY 6, 557TH SPIN ON THIS RIDE AND IT GETS BETTER WOO!" while wearing a pin, a hat, a shirt, and patches of the ride hs is riding.

The reason the parks didn't want brand name logos, is because it's giving free advertising to a potential sponsor. If you've ever seen any shows on MTV, most logos are blurred out.
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2002, the year the Six Flags America bashing stops.

....my thinking is that if an ACE shirt is OK to wear, then the park or coaster actually being *filmed* should be OK too. But it really doesn't matter much..........

There's nothing wrong with wearing an ACE shirt. It's when a rider is wearing a shirt with a Nike (just an example) logo that creates the problem. If you see that logo or design and think "Gee, I'd like to buy that shirt or something with that logo", then the company has just saved a $100,000 dollars or more for a 30-second ad. Obviously, Discovery Channel would like that ad revenue in their pockets and not in Nike's.

The product tie-ins you see at parks and in movies are obviously very intentional. If you didn't feel like shipping FedEx after watching Cast Away, well I can't blame you, but I'm sure they got a lot of new business.
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2002, the year the Six Flags America bashing stops.

I-Fan....no, I get all that, but let's say they're reviewing Stealth....I'm watching the show, obviously they're SHOWING Stealth, it's at PGA, they're already getting the *free advertising*. ACE gets the free publicity for the folks wearing ACE shirts, I just don't understand why they wouldn't want us to wear say.....a STEALTH shirt or a PGA shirt......to me, I guess it's the old "in for a penny, in for a pound" adage.....

does this make more sense......I *think* it's a reasonable argument....

On the show featuring Elissa and Ian (that was the two kids going to So Cal, right?) they did show a quick shot of what looked to be an A.C.E. newsletter. Right when they were in the girl's room and she was showing all of her coaster goodies off, she was flipping through coaster books and there was an A.C.E. titled text right in the shot. Did anyone else see this?

-Adam

I think that the reason they don't allow any type of name brand, park, or ride shirts is because of the mere principle: If we let one person do it, then we have to let everyone do it.

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There is no force like Millennium Force!

rollergator said:
"I just don't understand why they wouldn't want us to wear say.....a STEALTH shirt or a PGA shir"

Well in the two photo shoots I was involved in, we *did* exactly that. For the Raven shoot, we were told to wear either Holiday World merchandise or plain shirts. At the Batwing media day, we were given Batwing shirts to wear.

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Besides, if we were really shutting down people we disagreed with, would Jeremy (2Hostyl) still be around? :) I think not. - Jeff 1/24/02

jeremy, I'd *better* see you at HW this weekend.......or I'll request that your CB privileges be revoked.....

....nah, it'd be a less interesting place without you.....but if you show, I will find you.....and I'm scary.....

bill, noting the front-seat riders or "showcased" riders were wearing ACE merchandise, or nothing at all.....:)

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 5/29/2002. ***

I just wanna shake his hand again for being the only person to disagree in a correct manner. ;)

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

I'll be there, duck and doging my ever-growing band of "adoring fans" (completely tounge in cheek). I dont think that I'll be *too* hard to find as my caramel complexion tends to stand out against a myriad of pinkish hues. But, if by *some* reason that's not enough, I'll have on a red Steel Eel shirt. Beware! There may be someone else wearing the same shirt. But as she is a short-ish middle-aged white woman and I am a tall-ish twentysomething black man, the chances of getting us confused are pretty slim ;)

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Besides, if we were really shutting down people we disagreed with, would Jeremy (2Hostyl) still be around? :) I think not. - Jeff 1/24/02

perhaps we could edit the TOS page and have folks read a small *tidbit* on how to act like an adult....it has nothing to do with age, and everything to do with respcting others' right to their OWN opinions....

bill, still wondering how on Earth I am gonna be able to pick a "tall-ish twentysomething black man" out of the crowd....;)....tell you what jeremy, I'll find you.....it'll be a LOT easier than the other way around....damned pinkish hue....

Pinkish hues? I still don't get how people who spend their time pursuing an outdoor hobby are so damn pastey!

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

Because they only ride early in the morning, late at night, or on rainy days. Anytime the sun is out, you can find them at the nearest buffet!
lata,
jeremy
--You didnt say that....TELL ME you didnt say that...

You've got it right Jeremy. Ride when the lines are short. Eat when they are long.

By the way, for the Batwing shoot last fall, we were asked to either wear no logos or wear SFA merchandise.