The Crypt at Kings Island

Minus the drugs? Who'd want to listen to rave music sober? lol

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Mamoosh said:
Minus the drugs? Who'd want to listen to rave music sober? lol

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You miss the alcohol comment moosh? We were schwasted!

Milwaukee's Best Lite: my anti-drug

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Intamin Fan said:
Sorry, what decade do you think it is? I haven't heard the word "rave" used since the early 90's I believe.

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No offense, but couldn't that be because you're almost 40?

If Intamin Fan says it's no longer in use, then it must be true! Just like it has been guaranteed that I'll like the ride better now.

Okay, I am really excited about the ride now! Though I'm still not clear as to what you see in front of you when you get on, the program sounds a lot better!

Okay, first off matt., I'm an electronic musician who has kept up with what's going on. Just because I've gotten older doesn't mean that I'm forever stuck back in my twenties music-wise like so many people my age.

Some of my favorite artists include Junkie XL, Paul Oakenfold, Paul Van Dyke, BT, ATB, Meat Beat Manifesto, The Prodigy (new album on the way), Juno Reactor etc. I also enjoy the relaxing [total sarcasm] sounds of Dieselboy and other hardcore drum & bass artists. And finally, I own a multitude of industrial and electro CDs from the Metropolis label out of Philly.

So I did my research (oh, Jeff will love me for this, but he asked for it because he constantly has to instigate); do some areas of the word still use the word rave? Yes. But has it fallen out of fashion almost completely in the U.K. and the States? That's also correct.

I checked out a multitude of recent flyers from shows in the Baltimore/D.C./Philly area and no one uses the word "Rave." Everyone either uses the word "Event" (for club gatherings) or "Festival," (for bigger events and multiple-day events such as the annual Starscape event thrown in Baltimore).

The only time the word rave still gets used is to refer to the people dancing called Ravers--you know the people with the glow sticks and oversized clothing.

It makes me REALLLY hope they up the program on Cliffhanger at CWo Too, man the Paramount program suckkkkkkkked you only did 2 flips LOL mostly rocking not fun ... come on Wonderland change yours tooo lol:D:D

"Okay, first off matt., I'm an electronic musician who has kept up with what's going on."

Which means that for people who are not up to date on the latest dance music sub-genres using the word "rave" to describe music is especially egregious? What?

"do some areas of the word still use the word rave? Yes. But has it fallen out of fashion almost completely in the U.K. and the States? That's also correct."

Seriously, who cares? People here post from places outside of the United States but just because the term was more relevant years ago, there's suddenly a moratorium on using it, even when possibly describing music from that era?

"I checked out a multitude of recent flyers from shows in the Baltimore/D.C./Philly area and no one uses the word "Rave." "

What do recent flyers from that area have to do with the music they're reportedly NOT playing on a ride at Kings Island? See what I'm saying here?

"The only time the word rave still gets used is to refer to the people dancing called Ravers--you know the people with the glow sticks and oversized clothing."

Here's a clip from Pitchfork's review of Moby's album Last Night, which was posted April 3rd of this year:

"Everyday It's 1989", on the other hand, so perfectly encapsulates the spirit of rave that it might as well be drawn from a comp circa that titular year.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/49659-last-night

That was an American critic writing about an American artist, by the way.

Oooh snap! ;)

AFAIK, the word "rave" fell out of fashion when the *authorities* caught on to the fact that they could bust a BUNCH of kids for illegal substances and underage drinking. Once that happens, your lingo needs to be more discreet - esp. if you're posting fliers for said "event".

Hehe, and I've never even been to one... ;)

Ding ding! Mike and his bro DJ'd at what he described as a rave just last year also.

The fact that anyone could play the music snobbery card in a genre that some consider barely passable as music in the first place is hilarious.

Geez guys, seems you would rather be talking about the word 'rave'. Start a new topic if you find it so interesting to talk about!

While this is NOT the music used on the ride it sounds a little like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_0qVi6774&NR=1

It is Euro-Techno if you want we to be exact about the music.

-Also if anyone is confused about themeing in the actual ride area. Everything is gone except the volcano, but it is not used. There isn't any water in it as well. The Durga Goddess's face has been painted over with black so you cant see it.

LOL @ telling the webmaster what's acceptable for discussion... :)

I like light switch raves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MId7-xYR2ME

*** Edited 5/1/2008 10:05:31 PM UTC by kpjb***

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Jeff said:
Ding ding! Mike and his bro DJ'd at what he described as a rave just last year also.

The fact that anyone could play the music snobbery card in a genre that some consider barely passable as music in the first place is hilarious.

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Dude, this has absolutely nothing to do with music snobbery. All I was ever trying to do in the first place was ask what the difference between techno and rave techno was? And I wasn't the only one if you look back on the first page.

The only thing I could connect to with the words "rave techno" would be the acid house scene which is long dead. Sure, I still like to break out 808 State's "Cubik" every once in a while, but 1989 was a long time ago.

It's funny that you deride the "genre" as you call it, because a lot of rock bands have been heavily influenced and use the beats in their music. Want some popular names? How about: U2, Radiohead, AFI, Smashing Pumpkins, Coldplay (you say where? "Talk" uses the complete melody from Kraftwerk's "Computer Love"), Filter, Linkin Park etc.

There's a reason the media started using the word electronica. It's because the music became too divergent to describe as just one thing. Sure, someone could say that all metal sounds the same and has no value, and I would say that they're wrong. Again, it's become too divergent.

Rollergator hit the nail on the head when he mentioned that the word rave invites unwanted attention. Just ask the people who run Buzzlife (when it was just Buzz) at The Capitol Ballroom in D.C. (then turned into Nation, now sadly gone for a baseball stadium) about their experience with the undercover t.v. reporters. The biggest club gathering on the east coast got shutdown to keep your kids safe.

If you decide to read nothing else, read this
Okay, so if you think that some people consider it barely passable as music in the first place, why in the hell do you use Pat's theme music as your intro and outro to the Podcasts? Surely, someone who is considerate of everyone who is listening would pick something with lots of guitars, bass, and real drums.

At least you knew I wasn't going to read most of your post. I never said anything about what my tastes are... I've been to more electronic and industrial shows than I can count. Doesn't change that I think it's barely passable as a musical genre.

Well, I went to Kings Island last Sunday, and The Crypt did not disappoint. It behaved in exactly the manner I have come to expect since Tomb Raider: The Ride was installed.

It broke down.

We were in the final preshow room when the ride went down loaded, allegedly for the 8th time of the day. We were told to go backward through the queue through two rooms, for reasons which never became apparent. We were told that it should not be a long wait, so we waited about 30 minutes. We were loaded back into the pre-show room, the door opened, and we piled onto the ride. The bars came down, we fastened the safety belts. After a few moments, we felt the bars release and we were instructed to unfasten the belt, stand up and go back to the left. We looked at each other and opted to go to the right instead, chalking up Ride Failure #9 and heading out the ride exit.

Good 'ol "2-9 Raider" indeed.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
(incidentally, Kings Island apparently has NOT changed the radio calls. 2-9 is still a ride out of service.)

^lol!

So when you sit down on the gondola, in front of you is there just the tan building, or is it pitch black?

Someone said they just painted the goddess' face black, so can you still see the statue, just without the effects? But I thought everything was removed from the building...?

-Confused

So if this ride continues a path of unreliable service, will it be considered for replacement/removal? It seems to be becoming another Sonny money pit.

The crypt ran very well yesterday! It has been given new music. This time the loading/unloading music is just a sound effect of wind passing through like your deep inside a cave. When the ride starts the new music is much like some more sound effects with some wolves howling and wind blowing. The buildings lights are now in FULL use during the ride and everything seems to sync with the ride.
The statue is still there DantheCoasterman, however it has been painted black so you cant really see it. Trust me, when you sit down on the ride it feels like your in a garage because you can see most everything empty but it does not matter because once the ride starts you don't need themeing!

Ride Man, your words are true and you speak with such wisdom. Yes, Crypt will break down... why, because it is still considered a giant top spin... and it is made by Huss.

Yes, it is true. The Demon bat is as of now broke. It led a long life, 1 week!