Six Flags Fiesta Texas, Six Flags over Texas, Six Flags over Georgia, Six Flags Great America, Six Flags New England and The Great Escape.
I'm not really that familiar with each of these parks individually, so what is it about these parks make them the ideal models for the chain?
Of the ones listed, only Great America cracked the top 25 for attendance, but they do have HH included in admission. Is this a change in policy for other parks that also have HH's next door?
Fiesta Texas apparently has the best shows in the chain, so that makes sense on that level.
The Great Escape I figure is because of the indoor waterpark/hotel and that to me should be the future of the chain.
SFOT and SFOG are pretty heavy coaster parks as well, so what is their difference?
Suprised that SFGADV is not a no touch park, as it has the most potential with all their land available, along with being #1 in the chain for attendance.
Thoughts on what the no touch parks have that the other parks would benefit from?
That's the quote from Screamscape. I don't think the "no touch" term is referring to potential park sales, or whatever.
If the quote on Screamscape is accurate than we need to be looking at what these parks exemplify in the chain, not some sort of potential sale, or whatever.
Anybody got a link to the entire interview?
It basically has all the offerings of a Six Flags park that Shapiro is looking for. And remember, it has that spinning coaster :) *** Edited 7/14/2006 10:11:16 PM UTC by rablat5***
Fiesta Texas is magnificent with the rock quarry in the background. Again, the themeing is good, and there are lots of flat rides. True, it doesn't have the greatest coaster collection compared to the others, but what it does have is pretty good. All except for the Rattler. They really need to work on that piece of crap. If they would just take out the triple-layer up and down section, you'd have a winner on your hands as the rest of the ride rocks. The minetrain should be dupicated at parks that don't have them, as anyone whose been on Roadrunner Express can tell you, it's truly 'the' best minetrain.
Six Flags New England won my friend and I over from the start. As we were walking through the park, we discovered were all the themeing went at SFA--it all went to SFNE. And then once we got a look at Hurricane Harbor in 04', that was really depressing, because we didn't have one yet at SFA, and still to this day SFNE has way more than SFA does. True, there were a few flats closed, but nothing that would spoil the day (portable Top Spin, Vekoma Hawk 48-like ride). The one thing NE didn't have though was a real solid woodie (sorry if that sounds bad:)), although Thunderbolt was pretty cool for an old woodie.
Out of the four SFGAm was the park that had me scratching my head the whole time (figuratively) because it just didn't feel or look like a Six Flags. I think the moment that sealed the deal for me that once again SFA had gotten robbed in the appearance category is when we came upon V2 aka Vertical Velocity. When you see the patio that looks at the ride, when you look at the body of water (very clear and a greenish blue) that sits underneath both of the spikes, I just went "Yup, here's the money that's gone missing at SFA." When I heard they were building a HH, and saw pictures, it never looked very big. Well we get there, and it's the entire length of the Southwest Territory! (for those who don't know what that means, picture that Viper and Raging Bull are in a straight line and you've got the length of the HH). Had American Eagle's helices not been in the way, they probably would've built more!
So, anyway, I totally agree with the parks chosen as models for the other parks. Let's hope we see something physical done next year towards that goal.
Not that it gets very much credit for either. Actually, I might go out on a limb and say the park has *the* best collection of flats I've ever seen, personally. Can't really think of a park that has better.
Let's see -
Catapult (S&S Skyswatter thingy)
Tomahawk (excellent HUSS frisbee)
Nightwing (HUSS Fly Away)
Twister (HUSS Top Spin)
Time Warp (Vekoma Air Jumper)
Double Trouble (Chance Inverter Thingy)
Kontiki (Cool Himalaya type ride - kinda hidden away, bet a lot of people don't even realize it's there)
Buzzsaw (AWSOME HUSS flying carpet)
Houdini (Vekoma Haunted Swing)
New England Skyway
Route 66 Antique Cars
Spider (never runs)
Rodeo (Huss Breakdance)
+the pretty good water rides and Scream!
Good lord, once you start listing them it really is quite amazing. *** Edited 7/15/2006 12:52:04 AM UTC by matt.*** *** Edited 7/15/2006 12:54:01 AM UTC by matt.***
Sure things are a little bit improved over last year with the new signage & all but they really need to get some rides up to capacity & replace the flats that were removed recently....I believe that if they really work at it the park has the potential to make the last,but only if they're willing to put forth the effort needed to do so.
SFNE is on the list because, for starters, it has one of the best water parks in the world, and it also has one of the best flat ride collections in the world.
So why was the old half of the park closed went I went in the middle of June?
Haha but besides that, I totally agree with everything you said. The only problem I've seen there is the occasional outbreak of line jumping, and sometimes I'll get annoyed by the sheer numbers that the park gets. Meaning I think the park is a bit small for the crowds it attracts.
Agreed that the biggest problem right now is capacity. Problem solved in the water park for the most part, now on to the rest of the park. A good problem to have. *** Edited 7/15/2006 1:40:34 AM UTC by matt.***
matt. said:SFNE is on the list because, for starters, it has one of the best water parks in the world, and it also has one of the best flat ride collections in the world. Not that it gets very much credit for either. Actually, I might go out on a limb and say the park has *the* best collection of flats I've ever seen, personally. Can't really think of a park that has better.
Why's it *untouchable* though? INCOME, and potential income. ;)
As far as flat collections, I'd have put either PCW and/or Puyallup slightly above....but I haven't been back since you all got "The Swatter"...LOVE that ride!
bill, never saw Kontiki....and if I had known the Flying Carpet ran a good program, I'd have been ON it... :)
PS, no idea on an answer for you, might be staffing issues but maybe some folks more in touch with the park would be able to tell you.
SFNE has the right infrastructure to be a great park. It's themed well and has tons of family rides. It has the potential to attract tons of people, but is not quite accessible enough to be a Boston-area babysitter. And SFGAm, is huge, well run, *no* competition, and has hung onto the Marriott-era charm.
And I agree, SFA has great potential as there are many families in this area with disposable income. The park is going to always have "unsupervised teens" though, as you dont need a car to get to the park - you can just take Metro (same with SFGAdv and hopping a Peter Pan). Thus, there is an extra 'security' cost that must be paid to play. But if they can work that out - and I believe they can (tons of teens hang out at Pentagon City Mall, but Arlington County police dont stand for any mess) - and inprove operations, I think more people from the area would visit SFA rather than drive all the way down to Doswell (PKD).
But only time will tell. :)
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