Terrain Woodies

Cornball Express! Well, I guess it depends on how strict you are in defining "terrain."

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"He's blazin' away like the stars in the universe.." A. Vega + M. Rev "Ghostrider"

For the second time, Racer @ KennyWood IS NOT A TERRAIN COASTER. IT IN NO WAY USES THE TERRAIN TO ITS ADVANTAGE.

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Why do they report power outages on TV?

*** This post was edited by S00perGIR on 7/9/2002. ***

Mamoosh's avatar
SOOperGIR - please re-read my post. I never called Racer a terrain woodie, rather a coaster that uses the terrain it sits on to its advantage. There is a difference.

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chris - I was thinking the same thing. The ride flys over buildings, other rides, and pathways. My favorite part of Cornball is the dive by the trees and then the pop-up turn right next to Tig'rr.

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-Eric
Indiana Beach Online | LoCoSuMo Count: 1

How the hell does Racer use the terrain to its advantage?! I've ridden it, it doesn't.

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Why do they report power outages on TV? SANDWICH! Feel free to call me Mack. Or S00perd00perhyper.

Mamoosh's avatar
SOOperGIR - well, than you haven't been paying attention. You know that last drop and flat stretch before the final brakes? Its lower than the bottom of the other drops that reach ground level thanks to a natural ravine.

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*** This post was edited by Mamoosh on 7/10/2002. ***

rollergator's avatar

'moosh, you *work* too hard, LOL.

bill, saying that any coaster that uses its natural surroundings feels faster and is *funner* than any coaster that fails to do so....oh, and my edit: YES, the Racer does put the ravine to use, NOT like the other KW coasters which REALLY follow the terrain, but it DOES come into play somewhat...

25K for JR, 50K for Racer....how much can I sell my HOUSE for, anyway...;)

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But... as far as Kennywood's racer goes, it uses terrain, but not really to an advantage... at least not the best advantage. If it would, then why would the lift hills be built over the lowest point of terrain?

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Face it, call ourselves what we want, but to the parks we are all "GP".

Mamoosh's avatar

This is getting out of hand. Please read what I said VERY CAFREFULLY! I never said "to its best advantage" and I never called Racer a terrain woddie. It uses the natural slope to its advantage *on the last drop*. Period. The rest of the ride is well above ground-level. Can we just move on, please?

Oh, and Gator...if I work too hard, how come I post here while at work? LOL!

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*** This post was edited by Mamoosh on 7/10/2002. ***

rollergator's avatar
Hey, if I am "hard at work", then jeremy, and chris, and brian, and yes, even you, are likelwise....now BACK to work....;)
Dragon Mountain at ML (Canada) is a great example of a steel terrain coaster.

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Formally Known as Ozzyhead.

Here's my $0.02 on the Racer statements that I saw on a coaster show. When Kennywood went to Miller to design the Racer they wanted another terrrain coaster the way the Jack Rabbit (another of his designs) follows the lay of the land.

But Miller didn't "really" use the area the racer sits on as well as he could of so Kennywood got a break on the price of the Racer.

I'm with Mamoosh on this one. Although the last drop on the Racer follows the contour of the land the rest of the ride doesn't do anything with with the land. I wouldn't call it a terrain coaster either. Jack Rabbit, Thunderbolt, Phantoms Revenge Yes! Racer No!

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Knoebels visits in 2002. 5

To settle the dispute, the Racer at kennywood does not really use the terrain, the last hill dips into the ravine SLIGHTLY, but does not really follow the hillside. It was supposed to use the terrain more, but there was an error in the plans, and actually ended up costing more than planned. Somebody asked about the Comet at hershey too. I know it uses it on the first two drops, crossing the creek like the old wildcat did

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Vertigo said:
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PT300 said:
Lakeside Cyclone and Excalibur aren't terrain woodies. They are both built on flat land. Does Comet at Hersheypark follow any terrain? I can't remember.


I know the foothill of the Appalachins in Maine when I see them. Excalibur at Funtown Splashtown is not on completely flat land."


I don't remember it following any hills at all. It's just a great ride through the woods!
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TOGO!

A terrain coaster follows the grade of the site as much as possible. Excalibur is not a terrain coaster. The coaster may be built on unlevel ground but the layout DOES NOT follow the terrain.
The "foothills" you're seeing at Funtown are glacial moraine deposits. The Appalachain foothills are a ways west from Saco.
Excalibur is a great example of a family coaster. CCI worked closely with Funtown to develop a ride that would have appeal for all manner of riders. Excalibur is a fine addition to this fine family owned park.

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