Tatsu's circuit completed at Six Flags Magic Mountain

Posted | Contributed by xbombman

Vertical construction of Six Flags Magic Mountain's Tatsu was completed this past weekend. Station work is still underway in preperation for the ride's opening, scheduled for later this month.

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Yeah, so I hope people realized the sarcasm in my first post. I think it looks good. My only worry is that I won't get out there until June and I'll have to wait hours to ride it.
Oh, snap! That burns, Jeff. Somebody get me some burn cream STAT!

I wouldn't be surprised to see Scream moved to another park in the chain eventually. Shapiro has already stated that he thinks 17 coasters is too many and ridership of that particular ride is pretty low. I've never seen a long line for it although granted I rarely go to the park, LOL!.

Though it's a possibility to relocate Scream!, it is extremely unlikely, considering no coaster the size and magnitute of Scream! has ever been relocated, parking lot coaster or not. The coaster does actually have a good amount of patrons, and line longs do form, and I know this firsthand because unlike you, I often go to the park, LOL!

When you have as many as 16 coasters in one park, lines actually do dissipate among attractions --- and considering Scream! is probably the park's fastest dispatching coaster, even with a two train operation, in addition to its off-map location on the park, I'm sure you can understand why you never see a "long" line for the coaster. ;)

Don't let the illusion of a small amount of guests waiting in a queue line be the major deciding factor in your perception of what makes a ride popular among guests or not. There are a lot of factors; a ride that loads and unloads very slowly can produce a very long queue, but with good reason (for example, X). But a ride with the same amount of people waiting in line that can pump guests through the queue, on the ride, and out the exit in a snap snap inverval, is able to seemingly have a shorter wait (for example, Scream!). In addtion, a ride's placement within the park's layout has a profound influence as to the amount of rider patronage.


But other than Goldrusher, Ninja, and Revolution the rest are not terrain-specific and can easily be relocated.

That's incorrect. Viper, X, Goliath, Superman The Escape are also terrain-specific, not so much in a category with Revolution and Ninja, but those coasters were built into a non-flat topography, with support arrangements that were custom designed to fit the landscape. On Viper, X, Goliath, Superman The Escape, those coasters have support columns in certain sections higher or lower than others, because they reside on rolling and sloping hills. So to relocate one of those coasters and reinstall them on flat ground, there would be some portions of those coasters requiring "cement" stilts fixed below many supports, which would not work, considering it would be an inadequate and improper foundation -- in addition to having to dig out trenches.

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They have to dig down pretty far regardless to set the new foundations. A trench isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Adjusting the concrete piers has been done on other relocations. Besides that, take a look at the piers for Batman Knight Flight. They are giant conrete blocks on top of the water, but if the water level is low enough, you'll see that those blocks are suspended on much skinnier conrete columns. While we're on that, I've always wondered why that was. :)
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Or, take a look at the footers for SFA's Superman Ride of Steel. A coaster designed for a FLAT plot of land yet built on one that is not with tall cement footers in places.

And one would think that it is much easier to relocate a steel coaster than a wooden one so your claim that "no coaster on that magnitude has been relocated" is pure bull crap! But ok, we'll leave it just to steel coasters. Remember Stealth?

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Exactly, Moosh. Stealth was one of the first that came to mind. And just because it hasn't been done, doesn't mean it can't be done or never will be done.
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Shockwave aka Batman The Escape is another LARGE coaster that has been relocated three times and rebuilt twice so far.
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But Shock/Wave went to sleep wit da fishes... :(
Can anyone give me an idea about the restraints on B&M flyers? Are they the same size as on Inverts or smaller.

Simply put, whats the big guy factor?


Exactly, Moosh. Stealth was one of the first that came to mind. And just because it hasn't been done, doesn't mean it can't be done or never will be done.

Again, nobody said it's impossible or can't be done -- just highly unlikely that Scream! would be dismantled and relocated, which was my RE to Moosh's post, and thus, my point.


Shockwave aka Batman The Escape is another LARGE coaster that has been relocated three times and rebuilt twice so far.

Did you guys ever think about the actual size of Batman The Escape and Stealth in comparison to Scream? Sure, Stealth and Batman are technically "big" coasters, but using those two as examples to justify the possibility of Scream! being relocated is kind of funny. When I meant "ride of that magnitute" you really didn't get what I meant Moosh. What I was getting at is Stealth and Batman The Escape are both under 115-feet tall with less than 2,800 feet of track each whilst Scream! is 150-feet tall, and 15-feet shy of 4,000 feet of track. The ride is considerably larger than the two examples you guys cited.

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Just because it hasn't been done yet doesn't mean it's highly unlikely. The Rocket/Phoenix is over 3000 feet (and made of wood), and it was successfully relocated.
It's highly unlikely humankind will ever fly, let alone travel into space, let alone live in space, let alone land on the moon. Oh wait, that's all happened.
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The restraints on the flyers are very roomy and comfortable. I've never seen anyone get turned away or even have difficulty on one. But I'm a tiny stick boy, so perhaps I don't have the best info.
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I've heard they aren't as roomy as the Vekoma restraints though.

Just because it hasn't been done yet doesn't mean it's highly unlikely. The Rocket/Phoenix is over 3000 feet (and made of wood), and it was successfully relocated.
It's highly unlikely humankind will ever fly, let alone travel into space, let alone live in space, let alone land on the moon. Oh wait, that's all happened.

Okay, you're REALLY not getting the gist of my posts. You keep saying "just because it hasn't been done yet doesn't mean it's highly unlikely." Yeah, and Great Adventure really wanted to, they could definitely dismantle and relocate Medusa and Batman & Robin The Chiller, but would it happen? Is it likely to happen? No. That's what I was getting at. Same situation with Scream!.

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In general I would say ANY coaster is unlikely to be moved. But your point (originally anyway) seemed to be that the size of Scream is why it's unlikely to be moved. The fact that Scream is a relatively large steel coaster doesn't really make it less likely than any other steel coaster. Moving even a samll coaster is a huge undertaking.

Back to the terrain-specific thing:
Worlds of Fun's Zambezi Zinger was a terrain coaster and was successfully moved to Columbia. I doubt the natural terrain at Zinger's new home was a perfect fit (if even close).

This new rollercoaster looks amazing and it will defenitaly bring alot of people to the park. Eventhough its destroying the classic veiw, the new veiw looks even better.

As for scream they wont relocate just because it looks like theres always short lines all the time and not alot of people isn't true because that ride can handle alot of people in a short time.

Besides Magic Mountain probably wont ever get rid of a rollercoaster, becuase its keeping that record and Magic is one of the best parks in this whole world.

But whats going on with Flashback????

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