Swinging Inverts?
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The same reason Arrow removed the inversion from their original design. Sometimes coasters go too slow, rollback, etc. If that a train didn't have enough speed in an inversion if would have been catastrophic to the trains, causing MAJOR damage and perhaps injury as well.
In addition, most of B&M's layouts wouldn't work with a swinging train. We would have had another Bat I'm sure if Batman would have been built with swinging trains.
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B&M ROCKS said:
"Imagine in a loop, the trains would swing to one side and just snap because of the stress."
I disagree with this. When going through a loop with enough speed (it shouldn't be too slow anyway) the trains center of mass would be pulled up so that they would basicly follow the path of a normal invert. Of course, they might sway a little from one side to the other, but they definitely wouldn't fall to one side. If a straight loop would be too "iffy" then why could they just use a incline loop. The forces would pull the cars out, and it would be inverted...
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*** This post was edited by CPgenius on 3/17/2002. ***
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Arrow worked on this for a long time. And the fact that no one else has solved this problem thus far leads me to belive that it's just not worth it, especially since inverts work so well.
Let's leave the engineering to the engineers shall we?
jeremy
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I was thinking if someone wanted to bring this back...they could use some new technologies. Such as computers on-board. What I would do (remember I am not an engineer yet but it's just a simple idea I had) is have the regular suspended train (with newer look...etc.) then at the top where it swings, I would have a type of system that when the train passed a sensor (or some type of device) on the track it would signal this system to lock the trains so that they could no longer swing.
Then after the inversions another sensor would tell it to un-lock so it could go around bends and such and swing all it wanted.
If they were really concerned...I could add a brake before each inversion so that if the train was not going quite fast enough at the bottom...it would be stopped.
Just a hunch...with time and good engineering I am sure something could be worked out. Especially with on-board computers like they have on the Vekoma flyer's...I'm sure something like that could handle this simple operation.
I really liked the freely swinging suspended coasters. I think they were a great idea...if the only way you could market them this day and age is with inversions...then if some company wants to do it and has the will to do it...it can be done.
I am counting on Setpoint to be the next big thing...hopefully they'll try something. If it's wanted enough then it'll happen. Just think...some new suspended trains designed by Setpoint...we all saw their floor-less trains...(drools):)
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Like Jeremy said. As long as your speed is perfect, there will be no problem, but just one little thing to reduce that speed and an inversion could be a disaster. Even without damage to the train it could be very damaging to the passengers. You would wind up with big forces in the wrong directions. Considering that we here of coasters getting valleyed several times per year, the risks would jsut be too high.
Whats the point of the swinging anyway? The tracks are (or can be) banked to just about the degree of the swing so although I really like the idea of the swinging coaster, I just don't see the point.
The first swinger that was built in Germany in the 70's was not banked at all, however the ride was scrapped shortly after opening because the wear & tear was too much. But it does look like the coolest of them all. There was a recent thread with a link if you're interested.
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