S:UF at SFOG. How are the restraints?

Thursday, February 6, 2003 5:26 PM
After having a letdown at the beginning of 2001 on V2 of not being able to ride(but later that season, got to ride :) ), I have now aquired "restraint paranoia". Basically now I am worried that restraints wont latch in for me on new coasters.

Since I will try to take flight this May at SFGAm, I would like to know if the restraints of S:UF at SFOG accomodate most people? I realize that V2 is Intamin and S:UF is B&M, but I just want some peace of mind.

On a side note, X-Flight at SFWoA was very roomy and comfortable. Hopefully B&M provides the same.

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 5:35 PM
The Intamin restraints tend to be hard on people who are large at the shoulders. On SUF, the problem is more if you are large at the hips. Of course, there will likely be a test seat at SFGAm. Still, I think most people fit into SUF's restraints just fine, probably better than the impulses. I wouldn't worry.

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 5:40 PM
Remeber, always try the dummy seat. ;)

After working there, I was srprised to see that guests I wouldn't think would fit into the restraints were able to be acoomodated. They are more forgiving than they appear.

From whaty I hear, they are more comfortable than the Vekoma Dutchman restraints, too.

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 5:55 PM
I hear you on that restraint paranoia!

In order to ride Wicked Twister, the jacket had to go, it was a cold May evening at Point, but I was there in a t-shirt to ride WT. I am also a very snug fit on PKI Drop Zone, and to a lesser extent Reptar. And I'm sure you've heard my Quantum Loop war story. It took the operator of the KMG Experience a lot of effort to get my shoulder bar down far enough.

On the other hand I found X-Flight to be very accomodating, and I can fit into all of B&M's other products, albeit with a taut belt. The B&M flyer has me really worried to, along with Top Thrill Dragster.

Heh, the year I was to ride X-Flight, I was on the scale almost every day, partly becuase of some false rumour that it had a 265# maximum.
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Thursday, February 6, 2003 5:59 PM
Chitown you shoudln't have a problem at all. The restraints on S:UF are more accomadating then any coaster I have rode. You can fully lock the restraint onto yourself, no help required. You simply pull them down as hard as you can, there is no need for anyone to push as the restraint has a ratchet that you pull down on yourself.

If you can fit on V2 you will fit on S:UF, don't worry.

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*** This post was edited by MagnumForce 2/7/2003 1:24:01 AM ***

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 6:04 PM
The restraints on the B&M flyers seem to be VERY accomodating, and they're extremely comfortable.

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 6:08 PM
What GregLeg said....they are WAY more comfy....

Add to that what John Odum said at SFoG closing day...apparently Gary Story is rather large, and was VERY disappointed that he was unable to ride S:UF, so now SFoG is getting *big-boys* throughout on B:TR and S:UF...can anyone confirm that I heard that correctly?

edit: the restraints make load/unload infinitely easier than the Vekomas, so capacity is not NEARLY as bad....:)

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 6:16 PM
Dude, Brent. What happened to your 'n' key?

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 6:19 PM
Bret's '/1/' has take the ight off...;)...siged, Bret's computer...
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Thursday, February 6, 2003 7:07 PM
Gator, I heard about that when it happened... I'm sure he wanted to fire the entire crew because he couldn't fit.

No word either way on whether BTR, GS, or SUF will get those big seats. My guess would be no.

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 7:32 PM
Thanks for the answers guys. I probably shouldnt be worried. I have never had a problem on a B&M coaster but just that one time (V2, although temporary), left me with a bad taste in my mouth.


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Thursday, February 6, 2003 8:08 PM
don't feel bad. i never thought of myself as particularly overweight (ok, so i'm not Fabio, but still...) and the ride ops had to jump up and down to get my restraint closed on my first impule - S:UE. i felt pretty embarassed, but then i rode the "big boy" seats on B:KF in the 4th row, and felt too loose. i think Intamin just doesn't think to accomodate most Americans on their rides, as i'm sure folks in Switzerland probably aren't as big as we are. =)

~me

btw: I had no problem whatsoever on WT, and the same problem with V2 - i wonder if CP requested that the restraints be changed for the 2nd gen rides. something to note when people ride Steel Venom...

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 8:23 PM
Oh Lord, I am not drunk seriously. In fact there was a piece of Dorrito of all things stuck underneath my "N" key.

The problem has been remedied with a vaccum cleaner.

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 8:48 PM
OK, my turn. My first trip of the season to SFoG to ride S:UF turned out BAD. I went right to S:UF when we arrived in the park and was in line for an hour and the dang thing broke down...We were about half way to the loading area. Well everyone started to exit the que lines and I said to my wife that I was not moving til they said I had too. Keep in mind that I made this trip just for this ride and we didn't even get into the park unitl about 3hrs til closing. Well about the time half of the people that were in front of me had time to get out of line they announced the problem was resolved...WOOHOO! Now I was at the bottom of the stairs leading up to the loading area. 30min passed and my wife and I are the next to get on the coaster and what do you know ...a phone rings at the operators booth and someone tells the ride op that the ride has to be shut down ASAP. "WHY" I cried like a 5 year old whose mother wouldn't buy the toy I wanted so badly. The ride op says there is a report of a major storm comming in and the ride is down. "For how long?" I asked. The rest of the night. So much for this trip.

Trip number two. My wife and I get to SFoG early and we head right to S:UF and there is hardly anyone in line for it. It takes us maybe 30min to get all the way to the loading station. YES! I get in line for the front car. It pulls up ready to be rode hard. I slide my eagerly awaiting bum into the nice cumfy B&M seat and reach up to pull the odd restraint down on top of me. IT WILL NOT LATCH! I try again...same thing. A ride op has now noticed my troubles and came to rescue me. He pushes down briskly on the bar and up it pops again...and again he trys with the same results. "Its not going to work my friend" he says. NO! Try one more time. I push my large buttocks into the seat and suck in my gut and say a short prayer. SLAM! IT LOCKS in to position. YES! How dare you try to keep me from riding, now I will ride you so hard you will wish you were never forged by the master minds at B&M. I was not disappointed to say the least.

I am 6'2" and was 260lbs at the time. Your shoulders are not a problem on this ride. Your gut is the main thing to trim up just to be on the safe side of things. My New Years resolution is to lose enough weight that this is never an issue again. I hope to be at or around 230lbs by CoasterMania time so I know for sure I will be able to ride the big Top Thril Dongster. I hope its ready to be rode hard and fast because I am coming to town.


*** This post was edited by Rider 2/7/2003 1:53:21 AM ***

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 9:05 PM
Cool. If its more of the gut, I shouldnt have a problem. You are 6ft 2in. just like myself. I am around 240 so the restraints should latch.

Guess I am flying. :)

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Friday, February 7, 2003 10:16 AM
I hope the changes to the pretzel loop don't change it much, that would be a shame.
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Friday, February 7, 2003 10:25 AM
I have the opposite paranoia I feel that I will fall out if my restraint isn't very snug. Deja-Vu almost gave me a heart attack on the first lift. I need to cut back on the sodium intake. I was certain that I was the only one who had the problem with deja-vu but then I got back home and looked it up and saw that alot of other people felt the same thing. It's funny because on the first lift almost everyone's legs touch the back of the seat infront of them. Because of gravity and the restraint design. And there is a diagram on the back of the seat in front of you specifically telling you not to put your feet on the seat back. That's vekoma for you.

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Friday, February 7, 2003 10:33 AM
Colonel, that warning is there because, during parts of the ride, if you kept your feet propped against the back of the seat in front of you, you could get injured because the distance decreases...It's just a general liability thing, that's all

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Friday, February 7, 2003 8:56 PM
They are more accomodating in that respect. However if you want to loosen them a bit to enhance your flying position and all, this doesn't work. There is too much play, and it seems to get my hip kinked up - so there you are lying with a caught hip, and you are waiting there to go into the station. It was quite painful, only happened riding on the left outer side.

The only advantage I could see is hiding your camera in the buffer zone in the chest, which I did.

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Saturday, February 8, 2003 6:59 PM

General Public said:


No word either way on whether BTR, GS, or SUF will get those big seats. My guess would be no.


SUF has already had every seat on all 3 trains "upsized" to the big boy seats. As for B:TR and GS, I haven't heard, but B:TR would make more sense getting them than GS.

BTW, Every new B&M Flyer will also have the bigger seats on them, so everyone up North can relax. You'll all be able to ride.

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