Stratosphere Tower LV proposal

Whoa... what's all this stuff about lawsuits and football games? You're all missing the point here. There is no coaster where these folks live, and there isn't any reason they would ever have thought that there would be a 700-foot tall ride there. Even though they've announced they want to do it, it still seems absurd. How would you ever expect them to have forseen that? If they knew there would be such a thing, of course they wouldn't buy a house there! Give them a little credit.

Besides, we don't know if Stratosphere was there before they were. If it was, a large tower is pretty benign compared to a 700-foot coaster. I think it's a safe bet that High Roller and Big Shot certainly weren't there either when they bought their homes.

The same situation holds true for the people next to the park formerly known as Sea World Ohio. They had their homes before the park, and even when the land was zoned for the parks, rides were prohibited. Now they want to change that. Would you be OK with that? I don't think so.

The point is, these conditions did not exist when they bought their homes, and they are, rightfully so, defending their turf. As a local mentioned in another thread (and as you can see in the video), this isn't the projects. This kind of thing will cause monetary hardship on the property owners, period.

-----------------
Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"From the global village... in the age of communication!"
Watch the grass grow!

The only solution that I can see would be for Stratosphere to start paying these residents off. Let's see, they said 900 residents would be affected. That's not too bad. They did say they spent hundreds of thousands on consulting and designing.

Seriously, I am torn on this issue. I would never, ever want to have a rollercoaster close enough to my house that I could hear it. That's like living by a train or a subway. Even if it was as quiet as possible you would still hear screaming, and non-stop screaming would drive me insane! I live in Oakland, and when I hear screaming outside now it's usually a bad thing.

I am also a VIP member of Stratosphere (meaning I gamble, er, spend lots of money there) because they have one of the better casinos in Vegas(after Binion's became lame.) So I can go on the rides for free all I want, even though I still have to wait in the lines. Having the world's fastest and tallest coaster there would be a huge benefit to me...

-djansi

Jeff, are you sure these people were there before the tower?  If so, those people have more of a right to complain than does someone who just moved in last week.  But if these people don't like noise, why do they live so close to the revelrous Las Vegas Strip, which as far as I know has been lined with casinos and prostitutes for decades?  Isn't the traffic noisier than a coaster would be? Someone said it's a nice neighborhood, so obviously they could afford to live elsewhere.  The homeowners' attitudes say to me that they didn't fully research the locations of their homes before they bought them, even *if* the tower wasn't there at that time.

I don't have much respect for squabbling homeowners, because I have seen the same type of people in neighborhoods 'round these parts squabbling about fences, pools, trampolines, whatever. One neighborhood in a Columbus suburb fought to keep a McDonalds from coming and won...even though the McDonalds would have replaced a porn shop!

As long as the government isn't using emminent domain for private gain, I'm usually going to side with the expansionists over the homeowners.  Most of the time their worries about noise or whatever are just thinly veiled expressions of their fear of change.

The difference is that traffic noise is filtered out by things between your house and the street. I live a quarter-mile away from I-71, one of the busiest interstates in Ohio. If the elevation of that freeway was even 50 feet higher than it is now, I'd hear all kinds of traffic noise. That's the difference here... a tall thing with screaming riders can be heard a lot better than the same screaming people at ground level.

I don't know when the tower was built, but the existing rides weren't added until the second half of the 90's.

-----------------
Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"From the global village... in the age of communication!"
Watch the grass grow!

Den is right on track.  Really, I think alot of the "property rights" issue comes down to what insurance folks call a "pre-existing condition".  If a 1000' tower was there and I moved in afterward, I could safely  assume some noise, etc. will come from it (although I wouldn't have anticipated a 1000' coaster down the side).  Let's face it, it's an attractive nuisance.  If I was there first, before the tower, I would probably NOT be a happy camper (but I think the fight was basically over when the tower was built).  I do have to mention however, that I've never been to Lost Wages so I can't speak as to the immediate vicinity.  I'm thinking, don't know, that property values HAVE to be high enough so I could move away from the Entertainment-themed area of Vegas if I didn't like the lights and the noise...
-----------------
rollergator - intent on improving the "guest experience" - coming soon to a park near you

even if the people moved in before the tower was built, they still moved in right next to the strip!  IMO the constant noise made by casinos, cars, and people at all hours of the night is worse than a rollercoaster that runs form 10-10 (Thats a general oporating time, so don't jump all over me for starting rmors or whatnot.)  In addition, todays coasters can be made very quiet, (I know that there are some out there, but none are coming to mind), and some that are very loud, like Riddle's revenge and S:TE.  All these will b a factor, but i don't know how these people couldn't have seen something like this coming.  Out of Curiostiy, do the people who stay at the New York Casino complain about the rollercoaster there?  Probably, so that doesn't help us much
-----------------
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you are a mile away and you have their shoes."

If they're anything like the real New Yorkers, you bet they do!!!   LOL...
-----------------
rollergator - intent on improving the "guest experience" - coming soon to a park near you

Jeff, not that this means anything, but I also live 1/4 mile from Interstate 71....just in a different city. :)  And yes, I can hear the traffic at night, as well as the trains from the track that parallels the interstate....but it doesn't keep me awake.

Here's another link form Yahoo about it.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010831/sc/leisure_stratosphere_dc_1.html

-----------------
What is life without ups and downs!?!?