Stengel Dive

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:23 PM

I look at every pic possible, and I never get a good look at what everyone says is an amazing element. What is it?

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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:25 PM
Its just an overbanked hill. Thats all.

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*** This post was edited by WCS4488 on 7/17/2002. ***

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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:29 PM
Try to find it here. It's the first drop on this coaster. http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery977.htm
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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:32 PM

Here is a pic from RCDB.com

That is a Stengel Dive.

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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:33 PM
rentzy, the drop on Expedition looks amazing, but it's not a Stengel Dive. Goliath at SFH is the only coaster to have one of these dives. It looks like the 4th hill on Raging Bull, only three times more banked!
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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:35 PM

[url="http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1565.htm?Picture=30" target="_blank">Here is another good shot of it.

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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:36 PM
Oh sorry, I guess I got my elements mixed up. That stengel dive on Goliath looks unbelievable! Well if that's a stengel dive, is there a name for the turn on the first hill of Expedition G-force?
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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 7:48 PM
wow this looks like the best ride under 200 ft. i could see this type of coaster at sfkk , sfeg or sfstl

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Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:00 PM
How about getting one of those at the Great Escape Dammitt!!!! I want a new ride!!! :-) Great pics!
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Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:20 AM
I think the first drop on Expedition Ge-Force is called a Space Dive but i could be wrong.
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Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:50 AM
What I want to know is why is everybody all hyped up on this element as if it has never been seen on a hyper before? Raging Bul has a hill that is virtually identical to the so-called "Stengal Dive" (on the far left of this pic http://www.joyrides.com/sfgam/full/raging_bull1.htm )and no one talks about it (actually one of the weakest parts of the ride IMHO). Furthermore, I dont think Stengal was consulted for Bull (though I may be wrong there).

But overall Holland's Goliath looks like two tons of fun for everyone!

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Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:16 AM
Not even close to the same 2Hostyl. The turn you are showing on Raging Bull is not overbanked. Besides the fact that you are 120 feet in the air on the Goliath version vs 50 on Raging Bull.

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Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:02 AM
That's more than 50 feet...
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Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:46 AM
You say what you want but it's the same shizznit to me!
jeremy

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Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:26 AM
He meant the far right I assume and they also look extremely similar to me and the height I think is aroun 110

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Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:59 AM
You're correct, I *did* mean far RIGHT. Mea Culpa!
jeremy
--dyslexic as hell....
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Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:16 PM
Apoll's Chariot has something like that after you come back across the Rhine river and go under the lift. I will see if i can find a pic

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Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:42 PM
Hmmmz.... First, don't be fooled by the perspective on the pics. The dive can't be any higher than 30 meters or so, which would be roughly 100ft. As for the sensation going through it... Fantastic! Stengel did some excellent engineering and calculating on the ride. When riding in the front seats, the track is suddenly jerked away from under you, giving the illusion that the whole train is going to derail. When riding the last row, you follow the parabolic path exactly, giving the sensation of flying upside down, but also (because of being upside down in this angle and velocity) of crashing into the soil beneath you. I'm sorry guys, but you just can't compare this to anything on any coaster.

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Friday, July 19, 2002 4:32 PM

Yes, Helios say it pretty right. The Stengel Dive (only on SF Holland's Goliath) is a pretty awesome element. Raging Bull's turn like that does not do much. I like in the front where you go up the 3rd hill (every hill has massive forceful airtime, like Expedition Ge-Force or the Superman: ROS's hills) and the track is suddenly jerked from underneath you - being tilted at the top of the hill and feel like you are completly upside-down. No comparision whatsoever. . .

Expedition Ge-Force's first drop is also out of this world. Very steep, very sudden, very twisted and very gut-wrenching! Oh, I can still feel it. . . I also like the great forceful overbanked-to-the-right turn into the overbanked-to-the-left turn/drop. Goliath has two of those (one before and after the helix).

Both are awesome rollercoasters that should be brought stateside.

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Friday, July 19, 2002 4:34 PM
I heard the train on Goliath goes through it quite slowly and it's not that thrilling.

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