Posted Monday, June 2, 2003 9:53 AM | Contributed by Jeff
Following the death of Tamar Fellner of New York Saturday night in an accident involving Holiday World's Raven roller coaster, a state inspection found no evidence of any equipment or safety restraint failure, said Alden Taylor, a spokesman for the Indiana Department of Fire and Building Services, which inspects amusement park rides. Taylor announced today that the state's post-accident inspection Sunday afternoon revealed no violations and no signs of defect or wear in the safety equipment.
Read more from The Indianapolis Star.
God bless Intamin, Company that I love. Stand beside her, and ride her, from the opening to the closing of the day.
Resident Airtime Whore
Raven was in good working order. I rode it myself that day. In that seat. As did some 200 other people that day, based on the numbers ("about 2,400 rides given") attributed to Will Koch in one of the many news articles.
loriu is absolutely correct. Most people don't watch their fellow riders, especially those riders seated in the same row. The row ahead, maybe. Same row, not likely except under unusual circumstances. Particularly not on an aggressive ride like Raven. The best evidence is the physical evidence.
The more I learn about this incident, the madder I get.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
MrScott*** This post was edited by scott taylor 6/2/2003 4:26:10 PM ***
The snag in this theory is that an individually ratcheting restraint 6 inches from your body DOES NOT do the same thing as a buzz bar 6 inches from your body, due to the ergonomics of the designs. Also, I have often found myself sitting next to a person much smaller than me and realizing that there was enough room between the individual bars for me to easily slide out between them.
Anyway, I'd like to see a study done comparing the safety of buzz bar and seatbelt vs. individual bar and seatbelt. I'd be very surprised to see the results in favor of individuals except in cases of extreme stapling.
Also, as another point of fact, the ops on Raven earlier in the day were requiring the bar to be a fist width away from your body, not just 2 clicks down.
Edit: Magnum XL: no she was not in the car at all when it returned to the station.
Maihama, Maihama Desu
*** This post was edited by ThemeDesigner 6/2/2003 4:41:08 PM ***
I really hope Holiday World and Raven will be able to move on and keep going a well as they have in the past.
And of course, my condolences to the family, friends and especially the fience of Ms. Fellner.
SCREAM with me... in 2003!
Raven has given hundreds of thousands of people rides with no problem. The seatbelt and lap bar have been inspected and tested, they are fine. We even have SRM attendees stating that a park official said that the train returned to the station with the seatbelt unfastened.
What more evidence could there be? How can you not draw a speculative conclusion?
If this happened at a Six Flags park, or perhaps a park that doesn’t have representative that frequently posts on this site, would this get treated with the same kid gloves? If this had happened to GP Joe, he would have been tried and found guilty by the enthusiast community the same night the accident happened.
Everyone is saddened that someone is dead. But, like Dave I’m starting to feel a little angry. It’s looking more and more like we’ve been betrayed by one of our own, someone who knows better. If this is indeed the case, she has paid for it in the greatest way possible, but we too will pay. Do you not think that this isn’t going to get you stapled the next time you ride the Raven? Perhaps you haven’t been to Knott’s Berry Farm recently.
Am I being selfish because I’m concerned about how the death of an enthusiast (any enthusiast) affects my next visit to the park? I certainly don’t think so. At least not as selfish as said enthusiast was when they took their own life looking for a little extra thrill.
All I can say is that a group of us used to do it on CP's Blue Streak when they first got the seatbelts and still had one lapbar that covered both riders. It was mostly due to riding that ride without seatbelts for so long, that we felt safe without them.
However, I would NEVER try that on MF or TTD. I feel the seatbelt is the only thing that saved my life on both those rides (though I'm sure the lapbar must have been holding me in).
In fact, at Coaster Buzz II, I found myself trying to get a little extra "airtime room" on Viper, UNTIL I hit the first hill off the second turn...after I returned to the seat and thanked God that I never let go of the hand grip, I found myself notching the lap bar down to a more secure position (of course there are no seatbelts on Viper).
Goccvp1...who is not proud of his stupidity, but IS willing to talk about it.*** This post was edited by Goccvp1 6/2/2003 4:45:22 PM ***
A true enthusiast goes on the kiddie coasters.
I really enjoy the Simpsons. It's just a shame that I am starting to LOOK like Homer.
Yes, CoasterRider511, it is being handled differently because it is "one of our own" (for better or worse), and the park is owned by a family we have grown to respect and cherish, not some faceless corporation. Maybe that isn't fair, but it is the way we have, and will continue, to handle it.
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