Specifically, I am curious about spinning wild mouse coasters. I have ridden Exterminator at Kennywood and the versions at Disney, but honestly that is the extent of my experience with this type of coaster.
I know that Mall of America just installed Timberland Twister, which I hope to experience sometime soon, and DelGrossos has a new spinner.
I guess my questions are really directed at those who have ridden different examples by different manufacturers. I know that some models offer face to face seating, while others offer four across seating. I also know there is a model out there that features four passenger cars, but riders sit two-abreast… back to back.
Basically, I am curious as to which offers the best overall experience. Does any model offer more spinning, and does the seating pattern significantly improve/affect the ride?
Hopefully I’ll add some to my count this year, but truthfully the older I get, the less I can tolerate spinning, spinning, spinning.
So what are your thoughts about the versions you have ridden? Any you say are not to be missed? Any you say avoid?
I liked them both, but I prefer Exterminator. The theming and the darkness make the ride that much better....
I'm relatively intolerant of spinning on flats, but for some reason it doesn't bother me nearly as much when the car is *tracked*, I presume it's because there IS a clear direction of travel. I've had more than a couple *tame* rides on the Reverchon/Zamperla models, but the few REALLY wild rides were with heavier riding partners, usually seated on the outside of the car. Other than that, I think there's a considerable amount of luck involved, just *hitting* those corners at the right speed...:)
REALLY looking forward to June/MoA....for "the original spinning non-mouse coaster", AND for *my Hexentanz*...:)
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-Keith "Badnitrus" McVeen
So far Exterminator is my favorite and that has the four across seating. I am not so sure weight or arrangement has much of an impact. But I have had some wild rides on it.
I've done the portable Reverchon spinning coaster, which I thought was pretty bland.
I've been on a portable Maurer spinning mouse which featured back to back seating. It was a spinning coaster, but had a wild mouse layout (with only flat turns, unlike Steel Dragon or Spinball Whizzer). The ride was well done, if a tad bit brutal. It didn't really spin enough, IMO. The seating arrangment was cool, feeling a bit like a boomerang when going up the lift backward.
4-across seating on Exterminator @ Kennywood - I last rode this in 2001, so my memory is a little fuzzy. The dark-ride theming dominated the spinning in terms of thrill-factor. The spinning is very smooth and well balanced -- I don't think weight distribution has much impact on the ride. I also don't remember any spinning on the first half of the ride. I think the cars only spin on the second half of the ride, over a series of standard wild-mouse switchbacks. The best part about my one-and-only ride on this coaster was that my girlfriend (now wife) didn't know that spinning coasters existed, let alone, we were riding one. She started yelling and swearing when we started to spin, and continued throughout the rest of the ride. The three other riders (including myself) were laughing so hard we could barely walk when we got to the end of the ride. :)
tandem back-to-back seating on Whilrwind @ Seabreeze - I rode this three times in one day last season. I don't think the balanacing is as natural as on the 4-across seating styles, so the spin intensity is really depends on the weight distribution. There's also a significant track difference. The car is locked for only the first dive and going through the one-and-only standard wild-mouse switchback. Then the car is spinning and the rest of the track is a lot of swooping, high-banked corners. It's a lot of fun, and the spinning was different on every time we rode it. The spinning was least interesting when the car was fully loaded with 4 heavy adults and almost perfectly balanced. It was most intense, when just slightly out-of-balance (one of the 4 passengers was a child). When two of us sat on one side and the other side was empty, the car tended to rock back and forth rather than spin. As a bonus, going down the first hill backwards was almost as thrilling as the spinning. :)
Exterminator is only fun to me when the people you're with are scared of it. If everyone's been on it before, it's sort of meh - ride it if there's nothing else to ride.
I also love Crazy Mice- you can get those things spinning really good if the weight distribution is "right". A little jerky but I still want one back here in NJ on a full-time basis (not the one at the State Fair in July).
Gonch said on 8/22 (in this thread):
Whirlwind (#210) - All I'm going to say is if you've made the trip to Waldameer to ride a Maurer Sohne Xtended SC 2000, then you still have no idea what this ride is about. Waldameer's is a mere shell of the craziness Seabreeze delivers with theirs. How is that possible? My theory is that (not unlike wild mouse coasters) some can be overbraked taking the very fun out of the ride. I thought Waldameer's was fun, but not worth the drive from Pittsburgh. Now in hindsight, the brakes hit hard - very hard - compared to how Seabreeze ran theirs. Is this possble? Whirlwind was faster, spun more (and faster) and was in general a much more intnse ride than Steel Dragon even hinted was possible. On top of this Seabreeze ran more trains and pumped them out like madmen - a full queue was little more than a 5 minute wait. This ride impressed me. Hindsight is always 20/20 and now I see why I left Waldameer feeling so "eh" about the spinning coaster. I think just like Wild Mouse coasters, the way these are run can make or break the ride. (think Dorney's mouse vs Hershey's then multiply by 2)
Lord Gonchar said:
Hindsight is always 20/20 and now I see why I left Waldameer feeling so "eh" about the spinning coaster. I think just like Wild Mouse coasters, the way these are run can make or break the ride.
Kinda like wooden coasters there, it's more about the day-to-day ops and upkeep more than the original design and layout....meh, just read the sig...;)
You still have Zoidberg.... You ALL have Zoidberg! (V) (;,,;) (V)
My favorite by far is Timberland Twister. It had many different elements and really cool interataction with other rides/surroundings in the building. Exterminator is excellent as well due to the darkness/theming.
I love Exterminator too, but that obviously has to do with theming and setting more than just the ride structure.
I hope this helps.
Pics to compare the 4 coasters:
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The Reverchon models are great fun and are probably the most popular. I believe I have ridden around 10 different Reverchon spinners. While their layouts are all the same, the rides were all totally different, especially with the pin pulled. Sometimes they can be rather uncomfortable at times, but nothing horrible.
The Mauer Sohne versions I have ridden operate in a similar fashion to the Reverchon models meaning they don't star spinning until later in the course. The layout itself has the more twisted layout of the three manufactures I have ridden. The back-to-back seating makes for a strange sensation as you can't see the people sitting behind you and you don't know what to expect when riding backwards. As far as spinning goes, there really wasn't much during my rides, but the twisted layout really made up for it.
The Gerstlauer version I have ridden was the most fun. The layout was a bit like a twisted out and back but with some real surprises. Unlike the other two versions, the spinning starts the second you leave the lift. The cars also have face-to-face seating so you can see the look of others while riding. The restraints were very comfortable as well. The Gerstlauer version is also the only version I have ridden to use magnetic trims at the end and was by far the smoothest.
The way I see it, you can't go wrong with any version but for a pure surprise factor, the Gerstlauer was the one that impressed me the most. The spinning varies from mild to downright crazy, depending on weight and seating arrangements. I rode with someone that doesn't like to spin and he was able to ride it with no problems.
Ridden both Exterminator and portable Amusments of America. Rides vary greatly but can be mas fun.
Seabreezes' Whirlwind had me giggling like a Kid. Facing outward and spinning like crazy, never knowing where the track was going next made it very dissorienting and fun.
Chuck, next up, Gerstlauers
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