Spinning Dragons in, Orient Express out at Worlds Of Fun

Posted Monday, November 3, 2003 3:19 AM | Contributed by olympic10086

Worlds of Fun has announced the 2004 addition of a new spinning mouse coaster. Orient Express, the classic Arrow looper, will be removed.

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Monday, November 3, 2003 4:14 AM
Another Arrow Dinosaur is coming down. Its one of Arrows Oldest standing coaster and is a maintainence nightmare. To old and to many repairs,$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ are causing its demise.Out with the old and in with the new? Land is so very important to a theme park and when times change, dinosaurs are replaced with bright shiny new ones.The spinner coasters are tons of fun and hopefully, the area will be rethemed and other new rides can acompany .the area.
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Monday, November 3, 2003 6:48 AM
Why is the Orient such a maintenance problem? I would think the Timber Wolf would have more issues, not to mention the Mamba with how fast it seems to burn up wheels. I wish I would have know about this last weekend. I would have made sure to get some final rides in. At least I got to drive by it to and from Branson this weekend.
The spinning coaster may be fun, but like the Mamba, not worth losing another coaster (Zinger) in my opinion.
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Monday, November 3, 2003 7:23 AM
FYI, Mamba didn't replace a coaster, the Boomerang did.

As for Spinning Dragon I only have one comment: sleeper hit of next season!

mOOSH

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Monday, November 3, 2003 10:57 AM
What exactly do you mean by sleeper hit? I've heard that expression used before, and have always wondered what it means.

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Monday, November 3, 2003 11:54 AM
I went on the spinning coaster at Disney's Animal Kingdom - that was a yawn. Speeking of that coaster, I didn't think that coaster was up to Disney's normal quality, I mean those supports were so ugly and it just had a fair style fence around it. Screw family fun...get a B&M flyer or a B&M floorless.

Going back to the topic, I had not been on Orient Express (it was closed when I was there), what is the main difference between Loch Ness Monster and Orient Express other than the fact that it has a Boomerang/Butterfly Turn or whatever you want to call it? I went on Loch Ness Monster and I thought it was pretty fun. From the videos I had watched of Orient Express, it seemed pretty bumpy and not that exciting, but I really didn't know for sure.

A spinning mouse coaster? Seriously now. Why would they put in a spinning mouse coaster. One would think that they would replace the coaster with something with equal or greater thrill. Not dummy down. But hey, I only have 10 years of education behind me so what do I know? ----- Low pph, low thrill, sucky looks, and bad overall experience, except for the general public.

Anyways, that is what I think about the whole ride. It would be better to put in a nice B&M or a big flat. Whatever. There is no use talking about it, they aren't going to change their mind.

What would be really cool is if they put in one of those coasters that goes 95 degrees (Vild Svinet - http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery2163.htm?Picture=20 ) or something to that effect - sorry that was just a little fantasy.

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Monday, November 3, 2003 12:41 PM
I love these rides, and I've wanted one for CP ever since I got on Kennywood's. It's a great ride, and it's different every time!

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Monday, November 3, 2003 3:47 PM
CoasterMNGuy: You are aware one of these is comin' to a theme park near you, right? Why don't you trot down to KCS-MOA and check out the glass-encased miniature of the Timberland Twister before you say anything else? The 360 spiral near the end looks downright deelicious!

-'Playa

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Monday, November 3, 2003 4:34 PM
To clarify, I didn't mean the Mamba replaced the Zinger. I just meant getting the Mamba didn't (in my mind) make up for losing the Zinger. I wish the money had been spent to preserve the Zinger.
From what I read in WOF's press release, it doesn't sound like the Spinning Dtagon is to replace the Orient Expres, but it will reside "nearby" and the Orient is being removed for future expansion like Hurcules at Dorney. The wording leaves hope that something worthy of the Orient's removal may come to be in the future. Maybe a floorless or inverted that makes use of the terrain. ;)
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Monday, November 3, 2003 4:59 PM
No one has ridden these spinning coasters. They are brand new, by a different company. The only two parks to have them is WoF and Camp Snoopy (Mall of America). We'll have to ride it to find out. Although I prolly won't go to WoF anymore, because Mamba isn't worth the park addmission, and that's all i'd ride. Timberwolf is getting delapidated (right before breakrun). Boomerang is a joke. Wacky Worm is for little kids. And a spinning coaster would be pointless because I'd have no fun on a ride that replaces one of the greatest Arrow Development coasters ever!

Loch Ness and the Orient Express can't be compared. They arn't the same ride, the loops are similar, thats about it. The OE had one wicked helix though!

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Monday, November 3, 2003 5:59 PM
"A spinning mouse coaster? Seriously now. Why would they put in a spinning mouse coaster. "

Begin countdown to when Mamoosh will say "It's not a spinning mouse coaster" for the 800th time...

-Nate

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Monday, November 3, 2003 10:37 PM
What I am wondering is how long it will be before Loch Ness is dismantled... Seriouly, if it's about maintainance, Nessie is older than the OE - it's just gotta be more expensive to keep up to spec. That would be funny... An ACE Coaster Landmark dismantled... he he...

-Escher

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 4:07 AM
eeeuuuuhhh...harsh words,, toward the "Ace Coaster("he"he) you got to look at it this way dude...Cedar Fair in herited OE, so they we stuck with probably bad maintainence for years when it was owned and operated prior.Busch Gardens is known for inpecable maintainence on all ther coasters and all there rides for a matter of fact. Tust me I KNOW!!!So Nessie will be around for a very long time . Its either two things the can bring Any coaster to its knees,.... No#1 Space ... need more space to build and expansion project.... No#2 Maintainence.. If it cost three million dallors a year to maintaince the #%$%^ each year than its makes no sense to keep it standing.The theme park industry is not in business to lose money..and any park of reputation will see that and change there path...
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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 8:55 AM
MarimbaGuy....."sleeper hit" is when the dark horse candidate (i.e., long shot) beats the others to the finish line and pays *big* at the pay window.

In non-sports terms...something not *expected* to do that well, but does anyway....kinda like this year's Dallas Cowboys. Oops, sports again....can you tell I'm *obsessed*....:)
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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 12:26 PM
I'm kinda torn between either side in this decision because I can certainly understand why they got rid of it due to maintenance expenses but I wish they didn't.

What I really wanna know is whether or not it will be relocated to another Cedar Fair park or another park that isn't part of the chain.

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 1:23 PM
OE is being relocated, Stan...the info is here:
http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=34803

mOOSH
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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 2:56 PM
ARE YOU @#!$ing ME!!! That's awful! They BUTCHERED the thing and...well...BUTCHERED it! Anyways, that's pretty weird and I can't say I approve (could you tell?) but leave it up to SF to do that.
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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 4:49 PM
Hunt Midwest (prior owners of WoF) kept the OE in perfect condition. In 96 (after CF purchase), things started to go downhill. The OE wasn't well taken care of, and in '99 it de-railed on account of poor maintenence. It was blamed on metal fatigue, only because the welds on that (flat) turn couldn't hold after 19 years of abuse. Then CF cut out most of the trees, and painted the coaster a bright red (is that what color blood is these days?), and illuminated the loops (bad move). The only thing CF did good in the time they owned the coaster is re-guage it.

CF not only made cutbacks on the OE, but they also made cutbacks on all of WoF so they'd have more money to spend on Millenium Force, and that other tall thing. WoF has gone downhill ever since Hunt sold it, and I wish large companys would quite trying to make a Monopoly out of everything so we can head back to good-ol fashion values (Disney). That's the way THEME parks are supposed to be right?

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003 5:28 PM
And all of your brilliant observations and expertise are based on what?

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Wednesday, November 5, 2003 4:18 AM
Old fashion values????? If Disney has old fashion values, it would not BE around today...OE is old and STRESSEDOUT. Cadar Fair is not a monopoly.. Six Flags is!!!! Cedar Fair inherited this RELICK and time took its tool on it. MONOPOLY is Six Flags......ALWAYS broken always understaffed and ALWAYS dirty... (for exception of Six Flags California) Beautiful park..Cedar Fair Parks, Cedar Point For An Example is always clean always well staffed ,alwayscuttingedge<(even though THD was down half of the summer) is just a #$%^&*( paridise.. not a monopoly
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