Son of Beast: Over one million served

Posted Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:18 AM | Contributed by PKI_MAN

Son of Beast at Paramount's Kings Island gave its millionth ride to Leslie Smith ofToledo at 3:15 yesterday. For her troubles, she received balloons, a banner, and a gift basket full of SOB merchandise.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:11 AM
Whoa! That's pretty cool! Wish I could have seen the look on her face!

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:14 AM
My question is how did PKI know who? If it was based on turnstile numbers, then it is inacurate because kids will turn the thing around and around with no one in it just for fun.

Anyway, Congradulations!

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:21 AM
I didn't think they were even using turnstiles at that park.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:43 AM
There is no 'official' counter on the ride. And the only turnstiles are at the main gate. My guess is they make a 'guesstimation' of how many people rode it within the last year and started the day stating 999,000 people rode it. Then they counted the riders getting on the ride that day, and gave the prize to the 1000th rider, making her the 'millionth'.

BTW - her reaction on local TV news here was just, 'Great....I was surprised.'. Pretty low key.
Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:44 AM
They don't use turnstiles all the time at PKI, but they do on certain rides pretty frequently.

Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:53 AM
I believe that rather than turnstiles, which as you indicate, are probably inacurate due to folks playing with them, that park has a different method fo performing rider counts.

Quite simply on a coaster, they count the *EMPTY* seats that go out on a train, and a count of the number of dispatches during that time frame.

So lets say there were in an hour 20 dispatches, and the "Empty Seat" handcounter read 50, they would take 20 dispatches * 36 seats - 50 empty seats to get 670 riders during that time frame.

On a couple rides they do have turnstiles, these would be: Scrambler, Monster, Troika, Voyager VR, Train Ride.

The Train ride is the real oddball in the group, as there are two stations, Rivertown and Waterworks. Of the two stations the only turnstiles are at the entrance to the Rivertown station, there are no turnstiles in the Waterworks station.

Mind you there are turnstiles to the entrance to Waterworks but they would also count those who opted for the walkway.

Other rides use hand counters and a logbook. I'd say that on most of the rides the handcounter method would be sufficient, except on rides with multiple entry points, such as the queue gates on a coaster, or the multiple gates to the train ride, or Viking Fury. I rekon Viking Fury also uses the empty seat method.

Getting back to the train, I wonder how and if they count it. The mass entry is too heavy for handcounting, and they don't really look too hard at the coaches enoguh to count either way. The turnstiles whould only catch those departing from Riverrtown.

However in the heck the count their riders, they still deserve some kudos for awarding the 1,000,000th rider.

Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:12 AM
I am very surprised that it took PKI that long for SOB to have 1 million guests ride. Goliath at SFMM accomplished this just a few months after it opened, but Goliath also did not have all the problems SOB had before it opened.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:17 AM
I am not sure, but I think there might have been a turnstile on FOF, Beast, and TG. Those are the only ones that I think had one.

I know at CP they have the turnstiles right at the entrance to the platform with someone watching it, so nobody plays with it. Very good way to get a count of riders.
Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:49 AM
It's probably an estimate really, there's not a truely accurate way they could tell, just like Goliath's million rider.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 10:24 AM
I don't know any parks that do hand counts of empty train seats but I suppose anything is possible. I though PKI had electricy eye beams that registered a count when you walked between the loading rails.

In any event, I am sure the park just took a ballpark estimate. There is absolutely no way to have an accurate count.
Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:00 AM
Wahoo: The woodies @ PKD are the same way. That is why they have no truck with you staying in the seat when your queue line is empty. There is no advantage for them by you walking around.

Oh and Matthew, I thought the same thing about the time length...
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:49 AM
This sounds more like a media gimmick than anything else. If the ride doesn't have turnstiles than they probably don't have a very accurate count of how many riders have been on SOB. *** This post was edited by Kevin on 6/27/2001. ***
Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:01 PM
I heard that they were going to make tunnels for Son of Beast. Is this true at all? I recall reading that once in a post on this site. Overall, I thought that ride was pretty sweet. A 200 foot wooden coaster with a loop was unlike any other wooden coaster I've ever been on.
Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:02 PM
If anyone wants to see the pic of Leslie Smith winning the 1 millionth rider award, Email me at and i will email you the offical press release and the pic

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:47 PM
That would be awesome if you were the one millionth rider. That's cool that she got some goodies!

Congratulations Ray Bourque!!

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:25 PM
Of course this isn't an accurate count. It is just for publicity. They probably just calculated approximately how many people ride each day and then figured out about what time the millionth rider would enter the station. Then they waited for some attractive person to enter right about that time and claimed they were the millionth rider. Fireworks. Hooplah. blah, blah, blah

Wednesday, June 27, 2001 2:52 PM
THE POOR SOUL!!!! I would have rather gone to the bathroom. Now if it was VORTEX...........
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 5:49 PM
wow! as many times the ride has been broke down, that is a miricle.
sorry I am not a big SOB fan.
Wednesday, June 27, 2001 7:19 PM
It is a neat thing for them to do, that's certain. Definately a publicity stunt, but still interesting.

CP's turnstiles still aren't accurate, because most of the small rides and some of the less popular coasters don't always have someone at the entrance to keep people from spinning the bars, there are always people that go through the turnstile but don't end up riding for whatever reason, stuff like that. But it does keep pretty good numbers, overall, if you average it out.

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