Son of Beast manufacturer shifts blame back to Paramount

Posted Friday, December 15, 2000 4:00 AM | Contributed by Jacob

In the never ending, problematic saga of Son of Beast, the huge wood coaster at Paramount's Kings Island, one of three companies named in a lawsuit filed by the park says that the problems with the ride are a result of poor management by the park. Roller Coaster Company of Ohio says that cost overruns caused the park to disregard its recommendations and release them from managing the project. The company has filed a suit against the park in Atlanta alleging breach of contract.

For more on the story, visit The Cincinnati Enquirer.

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Friday, December 15, 2000 9:22 AM
Oh shoot!
Poor Kings Island!

I really hope that they didn't have any injuries and lawsuits the first 2 days it was open, otherwise, PKI is toast if the ride was in any risk-like operating condition.

Does that make sense?
Friday, December 15, 2000 10:49 AM
I am so tired of hearing about this ride. Am I in Florida yet?

First rule of Stormtroopers: Pee BEFORE you put on the uniform!
Friday, December 15, 2000 11:28 AM
what is the problem with this coaster??
Friday, December 15, 2000 12:02 PM
John Peck I rode Son of Beast the first day it was open and yes it was rough but not any rougher than Flight of Fear or the Beast. Yes it did get smoother after it was closed for about a month. In the article it claims that PKI had to bring in their own people, when what I heard is that PKI didn`t accept the ride from the contractor(when it was operating with one train) until July. Also, RCCA (referred to as Roller Coaster Corporation of Ohio) claims that PKI has no experience with in-house building of wood coasters. I`d like to say that the park built The Beast in-house!
Friday, December 15, 2000 12:13 PM
Kings Island rules!!They should be paid the money.How could the staff be responsible?They wouldn't open a ride unless the tests weren't safe. The tests couldn't have shown the problem.
Personally Sob is my favorite wooden coaster!!!
Friday, December 15, 2000 12:16 PM
I didn't think anything was wrong with it when I rode it, aside that it didn't open until around noon. But there have been several problems.

The problems have been that it was much too rough for some people, and it opened like 1 1/2 months after original date it was supposde to open (due to problems with the track). It was also plagued with late openings, and overall gave the park a bad image. High winds caused the top of the ride to be blown off during construction. OSHAA got into it about construction workers' safety due to this mishap, and fined the park (I think around $200,000, but I'm not sure). The list goes on and on!
Friday, December 15, 2000 3:46 PM
Standing in the cue line and looking at the lift hill you can't help but wonder who put that thing together? I mean if you've noticed the crooked board placements. It just doesn't seem right. Even though I've ridden it 4 times and got a different ride each time, it's still a great coaster that just needs some improvements.
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Friday, December 15, 2000 6:43 PM
Well i have alot of bad and also a lot of good comments about the SOB. For one its really rough but thats good because thats how i think a woody should be. The next thing is, the park didnt get two trains on the ride until late july or early august. I think that part or most of this problem has come from some poor park management or they just didnt get moving on their problems quickly enough. Now i know the Son of Beast is a great ride but they need to get their problems solved earlier so things like these dont happen.
When they finally get this case solved then they might be able to run the SOB without any problems. There would be absolutely no point of the case that paramount has put against the manufacturer, because what are they going to do, tear it down and then rebuild it in the same spot and do the same exact stuff. I dont think so. PKI would use their money wisely and i think they would look into a more modern ride. Although the SOB is a great ride, they should have waited and built it some other time closer to the Beast. Instead they should have tried for the steel record and try to stay up with that. They now dont have to really worry about the longest and only looping wooden coaster. They will have those for a while. If they want to get the tallest and fastest record back they should try to beat the new hyper woodie that is being built as we speak right now in Heide Park in Germany. The last thing that im going to say is that PKI really needs a new steel coaster, either a B&M twister or an Intamin giga or impulse coaster.
Friday, December 15, 2000 6:44 PM
I fear that SOB will have the same fate of the bat
Friday, December 15, 2000 11:35 PM
I doubt SOB will end up having the same fate as the Bat.
As for the new wooden coaster being built at Heide Park in Germany its lift hill will only be 195ft tall. *** This post was edited by DirtyVern on 12/16/2000. ***
Saturday, December 16, 2000 1:56 AM
The ultimate ride would be a 279' tall 310' drop ARROW that runs its 8,400' of track through the woods and down ravines, tunnels and cave-like areas giving you hidden pops of air time and high banked turns.

16'' wheels with its 4 36-passenger trains with a height requirement of 48"
Saturday, December 16, 2000 3:08 AM
I would give you "Ultimate Ride" 3 years and I bet there will be massive injuries and deaths.

As for Son of Beast. I am mean what do expect. I am tired of everyone thinking, bigger is better. I think Woodies should be small, not really small but not as big as SOB.

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Saturday, December 16, 2000 5:53 AM
everybody come to:
Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:17 AM
PKI should have built their coaster thru CCI or GCI. Too bad. I think huge woodies aren't that good except for speed. They usually lack in airtime, laterals, quick direction changes, etc. that should typically describe a woodie. I'll take these coasters anyday over huge woodies: Ghostrider, Rampage, Shivering Timbers, Tremors, Timber Terror, Giant Dipper, Playland's Coaster.

Bonfire, anyone, for these?: Mean Streak, Rattler, Colossus, Psyclone. *** This post was edited by coasteray on 12/16/2000. ***
Saturday, December 16, 2000 12:57 PM
What is this? Criticize PKI and Son of Beast? I live in Cincinnati and have ridden Son of Beast thirty one time, yeah it is a little rough at the top of the second hill, but that got better toward the end of the season. I think Son is just as good as the original and I sure hope that this incident doesn`t stop PKI from investing on some world class steel coasters! They need a M&B coaster. PKD and PKI are the only paramount parks without a B&M coaster. PKI needs one!
Saturday, December 16, 2000 5:13 PM
Coasteray, I'd set a bonfire (in my mind only!) for Mean Streak. Boring and too many brakes on the first drop. Very rough also. I can't believe how many people voted for it in the Thrillride poll. I think some people are CP brainwashed.
Saturday, December 16, 2000 5:47 PM
PKI should really win this suit. When you're in the que nearing the station, you can see two rows of miss-placed footers. I didn't think contruction companies should be THAT far off...
Sunday, December 17, 2000 5:12 AM
I wonder what the Paraniod public is thinking of this now
Sunday, December 17, 2000 6:42 AM
To coastersrz, You are forgetting that Paramount owns a park in Canada also that doesn't own a B&M rolercoaster either. That makes only 2 out of 5 Paramount parks w/ B&M machines.

Don't get me wrong, I think EVERY park should have at least one B&M coaster, but they are in such high demand right now, that they can only build so many coasters in one season. Those parks have high coaster counts as it is. I would like to see some of the larger chains, Paramount and Six Flags put some of these great coasters in places where they are needed, thier parks with smaller or weaker coasters. I have been to Paramount's Canada's Woderland, who has like 9 coasters, but only about 3 or 4 are really worth riding.

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