Smoker escorted out of Six Flags Great America.

I had two smoking related incidents at parks, one at Six Flags, one at Cedar Point.

Six Flags we were in the gift show near the front of the park when park security came up to a group of guys and a gal smoking. They told them about the designated smoking areas, at which point the guys argued about not knowing about the policies and how they won't put out. They were escorted out of the park for being beligerant, and along the way they were shown all the signs/buttons/shirts between their car and the ticket booth. This is the correct response.

At Cedar Point three teens in the que for Maverick lit up and an off duity manager came over in plain clothes telling them to put out. They were beligerant, he didn't do anything. He had no authority. CP don't use managers or greeters to enforce this policy, get guards. Oh, and the kids didn't put it out either.

I can guarantee you that we're nothing getting the full story here, and I don't see her giving it to us. It's not a news report, it's an opinion piece, it has as much actual information in it as the O'Riley Factor.

Good for Six Flags, +1

Six Flags has to start ejecting smokers if they want to create a demand for their new "smoke anywhere" passes going on sale in 2008.

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2Hostyl said:...I can propose a "one warning" type of solution. Instead of escorting them straight out the park, take them to Guest Relations/Security. There, take their picture or copy their ID and have then sign a warning slip. If they violate again that day, boot them with extreme predjudice.

Granted, it is the park's right to boot them upon first violation. I just think that in the name of customer service, a warning process would better fit the situation.

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See, that kind of reasonableness won't get you anywhere these days...LOL! Seriously, people DO leave their brains at home, or in the car, or wherever. A warning first, with the guest *acknowledging* that they have been informed DIRECTLY, seems to fit the situation MUCH better. Of course, belligerence with the security folks might get you out sooner... ;)

Good to have you back! :)

I know SFGADV you are handed a rules card when you enter with a few rules on it. Including NO smoking

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rollergator said:

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2Hostyl said:...I can propose a "one warning" type of solution. Instead of escorting them straight out the park, take them to Guest Relations/Security. There, take their picture or copy their ID and have then sign a warning slip. If they violate again that day, boot them with extreme predjudice.

Granted, it is the park's right to boot them upon first violation. I just think that in the name of customer service, a warning process would better fit the situation.

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From what I've heard If Holiday World had done that 4 years ago we wouldn't have had "The Night of Silence" that marked the end of Stark Raven Mad 2003 :(

There are times "Zero Tolerance" is the Best Policy

I totally agree. The old saying is true: Give people an inch and they'll take a mile. It's human nature.

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J7G3 said:
I am one of the biggest "NON-smokers" I have

Lastly, I think your final comment is not analogous at all. There is nothing against the rules at Great America about paying extra if you want to buy a Flash Pass.

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Maybe I worded it poorly, I do that alot. I just hate the idea of fast pass. I think it's wrong. I was trying to say I think that is morally 'wrong' than breaking the smoking rule (and I cannot stand being around someone who's smoking, or soon after for that matter!)

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I worked at CP for 3 summers... and lemme tell you, I think it's an Ohio, Michigan, PA thing (where MOST of the teen/early 20's employees came from) but most everyone smoked. It was pretty gross. At the time, they could even smoke in the dorms, cafeteria and (RIP) the employee rec center. *** Edited 9/15/2007 1:04:29 AM UTC by J7G3***

The whole article is typical columnist approach. It is opinion so don't include any facts that go against your point. We have already gone down this road.

Read between the lines. The lady got nasty about puting it out or agreeing to follow the rules and got the boot. Then she cries to her smoker columnist co-worker and he does the hatchet job.

The Daily Southtown is not much of a newspaper and this columnist isn't much either. *** Edited 9/15/2007 2:19:20 PM UTC by depotrat***

As for Holiday World, they entrusted us enthusiasts to be not stupid and put our lives in jeopardy. In fact we should know full well the consequences of our own actions when it comes to unsafe riding habits. Who would have known then that she would have been ejected from the Raven to her death before it happened? None of the employees at Holiday World that is for sure. There are now stricter policies at a lot of parks because of that one incident that were not in place prior.

As for this security could have said Please put your cigarette out as we have a no smoking policy except in designated areas and if you would like I can show you where the closest area is. If they refuse to put it out or do it again of course kick them out. I just wish they would do that for line jumpers.

So I finally read the article and looked at my Six Flags polo... there is a no smoking sign on the back. It is about three times bigger than the name tags... which she saw...

People are retarded.

^People *are* retarded. However, the name tag is usually worn on the 'front', whereas the no smoking sign was on the 'back'. Not that it matters anyway, because by the time she was even paying attention to the workers, she was already being charged with violating the policy. Hence, any correlation between her seeing the name tag but not the no smoking sign on the polo is moot.

lata, jeremy

Well, there is also a no-smoking button that team members wear. That is located on the front of the shirt.