SixFlags NEXT ENRON? Stock being sold!

Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:50 AM
I heard from a friend that three top guys from Six Flags sold their stock.  I don't remember the total number but it was high.  I tried finding some more info on it to see if it was true but all I could find was this site http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/quotes_sec.asp?symbol=PKS&selected=PKS   it seems some stock was sold on the 29th and yesterday a form on Risk Factors was filed.  Has anyone else heard anything?  If I remember  correctly wasn't SF up last overall?  Why would top EXOs sell their stock?
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:56 AM
Here is the story, they sold 575,000 shares they still have 3.5 million shares left that they own.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020130/n30124920_2.html

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:16 AM
I didn't know SF was ~ 2.5 billion in the red (page5 on nasdaq.com)
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:00 AM
SF has a pretty large debt, but also has the cash flow to support it.  Note that the report says that Six Flags is slightly reducing their earnings forecast.  They are still talking about a profit of $400,000,000 for the year 2001 before interest and taxes.  I don't know what their interest cost is, but even after that they should still be profitable.

This type of stock sale is not unusual.  According to the aritcle, it was motivated by a need to generate cash so that the executives could exercise further stock options.  ie.  So they could by more SF stock at special discounts.

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:35 AM
Any time a company says they're "controlling costs" to hit revenue targets after missing their projected target tends to make me nervous. What are they going to really cut? The service level at my park is already in the crapper.

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:51 AM
Well, they could cut staffing on the "upcharge" attractions, or at all the games areas...and with ALL that saved money, they could buy stock in K-Mart or Arthur Andersen....
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:51 AM
All they can cut besides service is would be new capital improvements and big B&Ms. (they won't sell parks since all are profiting)
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:01 AM
The lemon chill guys are HISTORY!  ;)
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:10 AM
An idea they might use to save money (maybe they do this already, I don't know) if to fire all food, drink, etc stand operators, then lease out the stands to private operators and charge rent. Free of risk (sales slump), free of a few paychecks, and some easy money.
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:18 PM
Bigkirby - That sounds like a great idea, I mean, how cool would it be to have some real good restaraunts inside the park.  I'll bet alot of company's would jump at that idea. 
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:21 PM
Thats what alot of parks used to do... until they realized they could be making more money running the food operations them selves.
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:29 PM
bigkirby - Good idea.  Then the food stands would have price wars with eachother
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:49 PM
Hey, rollergator, some of us coasterbuzzers actually work for Andersen...  and they don't know why...

Either way you cut it, this probably means that we're not going to get our annual company outing to SFGAm in September, when we get a free run at the park from 4-11pm.

Damn my luck.

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:59 PM
Olsor, just remember to DIVERSIFY your 401(k), and the quicker the better....oh, and your resume may need updating, this thing is coming right for you...sorry about your erstwhile ERT, too...

Confucius says: "putting ALL your soupbones in one pot makes for bad 'stock' "...

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:41 PM
Good Now the reign of the DIPPIN DOTS GUY CAN BEGIN MUWHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH ALL HAIL THE DIPPIN DOTS GUY.  With his almight PLASTIC SPOON OF DEATH.
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:42 PM
I can't say for other parks, but at SFA most of the food and all of the games are operated by outside contractors.
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:41 PM

DWeaver said:
The lemon chill guys are HISTORY!   

LOL....Oh no!  How will we ever keep up with what is really happening at our favorite Six Flags park?  Those people who get their info. from Lemon Chill guys better start looking for more sources.


As for outsourcing, SFOT outsources most of their games, gift shops, food service outlets, and upcharge attractions like Skycoaster and go-carts.

*** This post was edited by bigboy on 2/1/2002. ***

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:01 PM
I think it's smart to outsource stull like food and upcharge attractions.  However I think parks should keep games and retail on their payrolls.  But I think overall outsourcing some stuff results in better service, however, you have to get to a point where you draw a line in the sand as to what you will and what you wont outsource.  It all depends on your core competencies.

If there are a few vendors selling for, for instance, at a park, that may result in competition.  What I think is more likely to happen, though, is an oligarchy that sets prices to make a comfy profit. ;)

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