Six Flags stock down on lowered ratings and issued notes

Posted Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:25 PM | Contributed by HAMMER

Six Flags stock was down nearly 10% as the company said Tuesday morning it was offering $260 million in notes that are convertible with initial conversion price of $6.35. S&P and Moody's Investment Service both lowered the company's rating.

Read more from AP via Newsday.

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:34 PM
issuing equity to pay off debt. looks like SFI just went from being chest-deep to neck-deep in trouble, especially if all their 2005 additions dont inject much needed cash.

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:44 AM
Olsor's avatar So it's pretty obvious to the business world that Six Flags is a dead man walking...

I wonder if Paramount or Cedar Fair is keeping tabs on the smaller, potentially sell-able Six Flags parks? Or are they going to want to avoid acquiring too many parks... like Six Flags did?

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 1:19 AM
I would say.........

Great Adventure, Great America, Magic Mountain, Over Texas are safe. Everyone else is suspect to being sold. I understand Darien Lake has actually done alright, but the parks that cost the most to operate may be the first to go, thats why I think SWOA went to Cedar Fair. Mr. Kinzel made it clear that if the right oppurtunity presents itself the company would go forward. I am sure that CF is aware of Six Flags current situation. Lets also not forget some smaller amusement companies out there that may be looking to take on a big project.

My guess on parks going to another owner would be.

St Louis- Yes one of the original parks, but one that has not got alot of attention as of late. Six Flags seems to give the parks that are the most successful more attention. St. Louis has not received that much attention.

Marine World-Turned down a chance to fully purchase the park. The animals equate to a large cost. Look for a somewhat unknown company to purchase the park. Cedar Fair doesn't like animals and Paramount doesn't have the experience with animals either.

Etlich Gardens- I really could see Cedar Fair buy this park and expand their influence in the western United States. Its small and managable and would present a new market for Cedar Fair.

Feista Texas-I could see Paramount purchase this park. It already has decent theming and having those large rocks in the back remind me too much of the Paramount mountain logo. It already feels a bit like a Paramount park and I think Paramount could do it wonders.

Astro World- Maybe Cedar Fair, but I don't know. This park presents alot of problems. Again don't be suprised to see Cedar Fair expand its horizons out west.

Just my two cents could be wrong, but nontheless its fun to think who may do what. Lets also not forget unflagged parks within the Six Flags family.

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:45 AM
Astro World- Maybe Cedar Fair, but I don't know. This park presents alot of problems. Again don't be suprised to see Cedar Fair expand its horizons out west.


How so? AW is a nelgected park that despite upkeep capital and new rides continues to sell huge amounts of seasons passes and turn a profit. What are the problems a couple million in capital could not take care of?

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:18 AM
Jeff's avatar I guess it's not just the executives that need to be replaced. It's the whole board at this point.
Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:38 AM
How long before major investors Bill Gates (owns 12%) and/or Daniel Snyder (owns 9%) have had enough, and take over management?

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:35 PM
Like SFOT,SFOG would not be sold as they are the only two partnership parks in the chain & SF has no real ownership of them but instead has management/operating responsibilities.

The reason behind the decline to purchase SFMW is simple:SFI doesn't have the funding needed to purchase the park at the present time & will hold off on doing so for another two to four years.....that is if they even exist by then,which was a smart move on their part but it's something that should've happened years ago during their buying spree which would've helped to avoid the mess that they're in now.

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 2:37 PM
janfrederick's avatar Time for Kmart to step in perhaps? ;)
Wednesday, November 17, 2004 2:46 PM
Mamoosh's avatar Kmart? Oh gawd I can see it now: Martha Stewart - The Ride ;)
Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:10 PM
Jeff's avatar So the T-shirts would come in fluorescent orange and the souvenir throw pillows would be cinder block gray? :) Could you get off at the mid-course for good behaviour?
Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:17 PM
janfrederick's avatar Or after Six Flags emerges from its inevitable bankrupcy, it can buy Disney. (that Sears deal is too wierd)

But to get back on topic...uh what else is new? ;) They'll probably have to invent a whole new chapter of bankrupcy for them. Chapter "G" (as in G-force) ;)

And hey, I'll bet Martha could get Six Flags back on track. ;)

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:28 PM
Mamoosh's avatar Well she sure would get the parks looking nice. And that's a good thing ;)
Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:00 PM
janfrederick's avatar The ride descriptions would get a lot more interesting too:

Today we'll be riding a nicely themed gravity powered coaster with lots of turns and a couple of French twists that is sure to be a hit with your entire family....

And instead of Fright Fests, they could have special Thanksgiving celebrations.

Man...I should be running Six Flags...not this bunch of monkeys! ;)


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