Six Flags Magic Mountain announces Twisted Colossus

Gwazi isn't a single coaster, which is what colossus is about to become.

ABC should do a Step By Step reunion show and re-shoot the opening credits scene by scene with Twisted Colossus. That was my favorite part of watching that show when I was a kid.

^Hell Yes! I watch Step by Step on Hub every night.

SFMM has confirmed that Twisted Colossus will have 4 trains and will run at least 3 trains, which pretty much guarantees that the ride will be racing.

Or will stack at least two.

:-D

I'm interested in how the ride will operate to force it to race. Will the lift hills speed be adjusted by computer? Will the first train sit on the lift to wait for the second train to be dispatched? Will the dispatching train be held in the station until the second train gets to the second lift? All of the above depending on the circumstance? None of the above because of something I haven't thought of?

What about really slow days? Would they dispatch a second train to duel with the first one even of there were no riders for the second train? lol

And what about very busy days? Would they decide to hold the dispatching train in the station to wait for the first train to come around so they could duel, even if it meant lowering capacity? (of which I wouldn't have a problem with."

Not complaining when I use the word "capacity" above, fyi. Just needed to say that word in order to ask a question. Please don't get mad. lol

Didn't you work on Dueling Dragons? This doesn't seem as complicated as you're making it.

But Dueling Dragons had both trains unloaded, loaded, and dispatched (roughly) simultaneously. They weighed the trains and varied the lift speed to compensate for weight differences to ensure the train would "duel". And it was one of the coolest coaster features ever. Sad some douche nozzles had to ruin it for everyone. **end rant**

Twisted Colossus will have a second train unloading, loading, and dispatched while the first train is out on the first half of the track.

I think what LK is asking is what happens if (when?) the first train gets to the second lift and the second train is not close to being ready to be dispatched? What, if anything, will they do to delay that first train so that it races/duels with the second train that isn't ready to roll?

Here's my suggestion, and it has nothing to do with machinery: No loose articles, no bins in the station. Makes people get on the train and ready to roll quicker.

I have a recollection of reading that Raptor weighed the train in the station and adjusted the speed of the chain lift to ensure a smooth transition onto the chain by the train.

Perhaps the ride's computer will monitor the position of the trains and adjust brakes, chain speed etc to achieve the trains running "together"?

^ slithernoggin-

Cedar Point mentions in their GateKeeper operation video that several rides have been retrofitted with variable speed DC motors for that very purpose.

Are you sure they aren't AC motors with the drives that vary the frequency (Hz) on them?

Off topic, somewhat... According to Don Helbig during a personal Beast walkback, The Beast's second chain lift varies its speed according to the speed of the train when it approaches the lift for better transition into the chain as well. It makes for a less jerky connection to the chain.

I hope that Twisted Colossus has the technology to match trains together no matter the circumstances. My questions were just me daydreaming on the keyboard.

Since we're discussing naming/re-naming on at least two other threads....here's my suggestion for the next moniker for this ride:

Tighty-Whitey Twisted Colossus....

It doesn't look like this coaster can race anymore, but can duel. It does not look like the ending has a common side-by-side finish point. The duel will still add a thrill factor to the ride, interacting with the other train. But the excitement of the race will probably be lost.

It looks like any 4 train operation would require stacking if trains are run together, as there is no block brake. 2 trains on the hill, one train in the station, on train on the brakes. Capacity will definitely be down from previous 4 train operation, although that didn't happen much in recent history (Six Flags operation, cut capacity to save $ on payroll).

The ride caught on fire today, you can watch live coverage here: http://ktla.com/

It's not that complicated, Jeff, unless you have an irrational hatred of Six Flags.

Ok, but in the meantime, back to the fire. Omg!

Or-... How conveeeeeeenient!

If this exact ride was at any other park, I would be equally as interested in how it is going to be operated. I have no negative feelings for the ride or the park in this topic whatsoever.

I hacked Tekwardo's netcam and took this photo while he was typing his last post...

Again with the crying picture?

Yeah, the picture wasn't funny after the first mildly funny posting of a 10 year old meme.