Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom dispute settled

I wonder if it is cost-effective enough to refurbish Twisted Twins since it's a steel structure and re-tracking is routine anyway, and since the trains are no longer on site, do they: 1) request them back; b) purchase used ones (Son of Beasts trains... if that ride comes down); or 3) Buy new ones

Reopening the twins would be about the only reason I would ever go back to KK.

What? No love for Greezed Lightning?

GL is my favorite coaster there. If/when they reopen next year, I will be sure to stop in for some GL rides.

Greezed Lightning and Thunder Run are both great rides. I never experienced a duel on Twisted Twins since Lola was closed, but regardless, the ride itself was underwhelming, and uncomfortable thanks to the awful trains.

Mayhaps they can get some new Timberlines...if those things ever get going ;).

john peck said:
I thought the concrete pad was still sitting there at SFNE for their canceled Dark Knight... unless they got rid of it already. That would have been for a Mack Mouse. SFNE already has a Kentucky Kingdom ride already, the Boomerang.

The concrete pad is still there. Now you'll find a selection of games( football & golf) there now along with the Slingshot ride. Not sure they woudl remove 3 attractions that can make then money for a coaster. Also this model has a terribly low capacity and the train are Mine car themed. not exactly right for the DC area. SFNE needs attractions with capacity more the 700.

As for Twisted twins; The Son of Beast trains can not operate on that coaster. Those are custom trains. Also teh coaster seem low rated and takes up a lot of space. you looking at a 1.5+ million rehab, then new trains at that point you might at well look at a new coaster. In turn a better more compact design could open up space for anew midway and traffic flow.

Tekwardo said:
Mayhaps they can get some new Timberlines...if those things ever get going ;).

Not sure if new trains would make the ride more interesting. More comfortable, I'm sure, but not especially good. Kinda like Son of Beast. It has trains more suitable for the ride, but the layout still blows.

Not that TT's layout blows (at least that much), but you get my point.

As for Twisted twins; The Son of Beast trains can not operate on that coaster. Those are custom trains.

I would imagine they were referencing the G-Trains that SoB runs that came from the MB Pavilion, which would run on Twisted Twins.

As for the ride itself, yeah. Wasn't much fun. The money is on Thunder Run.

I remember an event where Thunder Run was absolutely amazing, and there was the shed built for transfer track for a second train to possibly be added later...then SF paid to have that shed removed.

Later, they got GL (Viper) from SFoG - and they only run one train on that too! ;)

Seriously, though, if anyone knows the market for that park and CAN make a go of it even with HW having doubled its reach in the last decade....it's Ed Hart.

Yeah, I think that if he can invest in opening the park with what they have, paint it and spruce it up, get all of the rides running, and make a go of it, that it could be successful. The waterpark is decent there, they'll have quite a lot of room to add stuff now that Chang and the mouse will be vacated, so they could expand the waterpark in the next few years, move some stuff around, get some flats in there, and eventually put a nice family coaster in to replace the mouse.

I don't think that park needs a bunch of stuff to be successful, I think it just needs an injection of maintenance and good management.

Tekwardo said:

As for Twisted twins; The Son of Beast trains can not operate on that coaster. Those are custom trains.

I would imagine they were referencing the G-Trains that SoB runs that came from the MB Pavilion, which would run on Twisted Twins.

As for the ride itself, yeah. Wasn't much fun. The money is on Thunder Run.

Maybe Dave can chime in if I'm wrong, but I thought the Pavilion trains were modified to run on SOB. Something like the wheelbase was widened for the differing track gauge? So they actually wouldn't be able to run on the Twins.

That was my impression as well.

There are plenty of "normal" used G-trains available (if I were involved in the deal, the original Twisted Sisters trains would have come back from St. Louis as part of the agreement - I'm happy to say they're completely unnecessary there, since Eagle has kept the PTCs....yay!). Honestly, if they could find some used PTC trains for Twins, they might improve the ride...but then again, the weight might be an issue.

I've heard some people say that SoB has a different track gague, and others say that it doesn't. I personally don't know, but looking at pictures of the blue train on both rides, it doesn't 'look' any different.

It does. It is wider.

It is? Then how are they using standard Gerstlauers on it?

obxKevin says they were modified. I certainly don't know, I've actually heard more credible people say that it isn't a different gague, but a ton of enthusiasts and other somewhat credible people say it is.

Gerstlauer modified the trains to allow them to run on SOB Jeff. Here is a press release from 2008 where they talk about 10 years of wooden coaster trains from them and they talk about Son of Beast: http://www.rideentertainment.com/pdf/10yearstrains.pdf

Finally some proof. I do find it funny that they say it reopened to a popularity it hadn't seen before.

Still, they could re-reengineer those trains to fit Twisted Twins...if KI was willing to get rid of them.:)

I'm pretty sure I remember Siebert saying something about the different gauge on Sonny during the CCamp event...