Six Flags Great America takes Chang off the zoning agenda

Three things come to mind on this

Six Flags is afraid the lawsuits over KK will be upheld and they may have to return the ride or whomever is in talks to reopen KK has made an offer for the land six flags owns and this ride.

It is also possible they are waiting for the new management team to decide if they will go forward with this.

Kevin38

The rumor I heard yesterday was that B&M wouldn't let them change it into a sit down model. Since there's no point in having 2 stand ups at one park, the rumor is that Six Flags is considering putting it in at Great Adventure now.

That sounds like an enthusiast generated rumor.

Why would B&M shoot that down? They would be selling new trains.

This is just a guess but I would image that the new CEO had a lot to do with the switch. He probably realized how silly it was putting Chang into SFGA.

I agree Jeff, it does. I'd be curious to hear Rideman's opinion on this: The explanation he said B&M gave Six Flags was that the centerline of the ride path would be different on the sit down vs the stand-up and would change the dynamics of the ride. Not that it wouldn't work. But, that it would negatively effect the ride experience. Which is hard to imagine when we are beginning with a ride that you stand up on. :)

Insert "yes, but Sheikra" rebuttal.

Yeah, that's a good counter arguement to B&M saying they woudln't do it. And I thought that the whole hearline issue was settled recently in another post?

B&M is in the business to make money. I'm sure if SFI wanted to spend the money, they'd turn it into an invert if the park asked.

Pretty sure where there is a will, there is a way. It may have been cost prohibitive however. I have to wonder if there is some possibility that the judge ruled that Chang couldnt be installed somewhere other than SFKK until the case was settled.

Chang was removed with the fairboard's permission, so that Six Flags could expand the water park. I doubt there is much anyone could do about the ride now.

Rumors now are indicating Chang will be replacing GASM at Great Adventure. No confirmation yet, but there's been a lot of talk about it the last day or two.

Unless anyone here is a roller coaster engineer or a spokesperson with Bolliger & Mabillard, let's stop arguing over the whole stand-up/sit-down conversion thing. It's silly. Could it be done? Possibly. Could there be reasons why it would not be feasible due to a number of factors? Possibly. But to say it's "it's already been decided in another thread" as if Coaster buzzer speculation and consensus meant it's the truth -- is rather dumb.

For all we know, the conversion COULD be made, and on the flip side, it may also be impossible due to factors that us enthusiasts have NO idea about when it comes to the design and manufacturing of these rides.

but to say it's "it's already been decided in another thread" as if Coaster buzzer speculation and consensus meant it's the truth -- is rather dumb.

Before you go criticizing someone and saying the things they're doing are silly or dumb , maybe you should go reread the post I was referring to, which basically said the whole heartline issue was one made up by enthusiasts and that it came from a comment from a company that they designed certain elements around a heartline. I was saying the same thing you're coming in pronouncing now. What's dumb is your years of trying to conform everyone on Coasterbuzz to your thinking.

My point was that we had a discussion where someone went back and explained the heartline myth. I never once mentioned that it could or couldn't be done. But if Six Flags offered B&M enough money to do anything, I'm sure they'd fine a way.

P.S., why should we stop arguing over it? This is a discussion forum. That's what people do. This isn't an "Everyone agrees with your opinion" posting site.

Every site seems to have someone that wants to step in and save the day by ending speculation and discussion all while adding to the debate.

Tekwardo said:
What's dumb is your years of trying to conform everyone on Coasterbuzz to your thinking.

All I saw was someone stating his opinion.

Settle down. Don't make me count to three.

Spoken like a dad. But I can't imagine you've had to pull that on Simon yet. ;)

Chang...not going to SFGAm? I hate to be an "I told you so" but...well, I told you so! ;)

Considering all the other cost cutting measures going on at Six Flags right now, you have to wonder if the ride is going to open up at ANY Six Flags in 2011.

I think that's the plan. It's their 50th anniversary. We already know that the revamped Texas Giant will open next year. Mr. Six's Dance Coaster was pushed back to open next year at Magic Mountain.