Six Flags Great Adventure not changing course over solar plans

Posted Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:11 AM | Contributed by Jeff

He drives a Tesla plug-in, speaks passionately about the perils of climate change and is an architect of one of the most ambitious green energy initiatives in the state. But for the past month, Six Flags Great Adventure President John Fitzgerald has drawn the ire of New Jersey environmentalists, who have lined up in opposition to his plan to cut down 19,000 trees for a 90-acre solar farm.

Read more and see video from The Asbury Park Press.

Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:18 AM

Good, who cares what these environmentalists think.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:47 PM

Good, who cares what these coaster enthusiasts think.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:40 PM

John Fitzgerald - "He drives a Tesla plug-in, speaks passionately about the perils of climate change..." Planet Earth is more than 4.5 billion years old and yet this Six Flags park president who will likely live here for less than 100 years seems to think he knows everything about climate change. Yeah right. Stop your hot topic talk and instead tell the truth. This ugly solar farm is about making money, not saving the planet.

Human activity on the planet over the past 200 years is so insignificant in the grand scheme.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:12 PM

A) A business being in the business of making money is no surprise. If a business can make money and do a solid for the planet, all the better.

B) "this Six Flags park president" is hardly the only person on the face of the Earth who will likely live here for less than 100 years. You also seem to "think" you know "everything about climate change"...

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:38 PM

See the previous thread on this topic. I did the math, and the net carbon emission reduction is enormous.

There is a bizarre disconnect that suggests that environmental concerns are incompatible with capitalism. This is one of those cases that I think demonstrates otherwise.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:59 PM

Yeah right. Stop your hot topic talk and instead tell the truth. This ugly solar farm is about making money, not saving the planet.

And people accuse me of being argumentative and negative for no reason...

Seriously? It doesn't matter what the underlying reason is. It's a solar farm. That's NEVER a bad thing. It just isn't. It's less energy being produced by non-renewable resources, and the trees they're cutting down are renewable. Seriously, you're just arguing to argue it seems.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:19 PM

Tek, why are you being argumentative and negative for no reason? :-)

Solar, wind -- never a bad thing. I always make fun of the wind farm you drive through on 65 en route to Holiday World or Beech Bend as the only interesting thing to see in Indiana, but in reality it's a good thing.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:27 PM

What did I state that even suggests that I "think" I know everything? I did not share "my opinion" regarding climate change. It was the Park President of Great Adventure that is pretending to know everything. All I stated is that in relation to 4.5 billion years, a couple hundred is pretty insignificant. But since you asked "my opinion" then I will say that I "think" that a needle in a haystack knows very little about the haystack as a whole!

Aside from a solar farm being ugly I don't really care if they build it or not. I'm just sick of company executives preaching to us as if they know all about climate change when they don't.

From a business perspective I think using solar to power the rides isn't such a bad idea.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:30 PM

So, one line of a CEO talking about climate change, and you can accuse him of acting like he knows everything, but the same doesn't hold true to you? Interesting.

Slither, I'm the Bianca Del Rio of Coasterbuzz. I'll let you guess who my Laganja is (Hint, it's not egiszl).

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:34 PM

Tekwardo what did I say that makes me a "know it all"? Please do share as your accusation is unfounded. It's interesting that the same few attack any comment I make on this site, but you're not deterring me from participating.

It's a solar farm. That's NEVER a bad thing. - Using absolute terms. Tell that to my neighbor in California as he'd present a very good argument about why it can, especially in his situation, be a bad thing.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:40 PM

I never said you were a know it all. You said the CEO acted like he knew it all, slithernoggin said that you seem to think you know it all. I didn't accuse you. All I inferred was that it was interesting that you can accuse a CEO of acting like they know it all, but don't like it when someone accuses you of the same thing.

And congrats on still posting here. We're all so proud, I'm sure...

Edit: I dont' care about your neighbor. You're not making a very good argument, so what your neighbor thinks is irrelevant.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:47 PM

That park is typical of Six Flags. Run down and poorly maintained. One if its few virtues is the trees that surround it and a few great coasters. If the trees they remove are close tot he park, it's going to highlight how run down the park is even more.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:58 PM

egieszl said:

What did I state that even suggests that I "think" I know everything? I did not share "my opinion" regarding climate change.

Well, there's your blanket statements... "Planet Earth is more than 4.5 billion years old and yet this Six Flags park president ... seems to think he knows everything about climate change." "Stop your hot topic talk and instead tell the truth." "This... solar farm is about making money, not saving the planet." "Human activity... is so insignificant in the grand scheme."

Seems to me there's a lot of opinion in there.

And.... "aside from a solar farm being ugly" you're sick of company executives preaching to you but from a business perspective you think using solar power isn't such a bad idea.... um, what? Make up your mind. Either solar farms are ugly and business executives shouldn't "preach" to you, or solar farms aren't such a bad idea.

Tek: Really, queen? You're the Bianca of Coasterbuzz? :-) As long as you're not any of the season seven queens and I can be the Jinkx Monsoon of Coasterbuzz.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... I'm good.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:59 PM

You did say "that's never a bad thing", but that statement is not always true. I don't know about the situation at Six Flags, but the folks arguing against it may have a valid reason to oppose it.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 4:08 PM

slithernoggin said:

And.... "aside from a solar farm being ugly" you're sick of company executives preaching to you but from a business perspective you think using solar power isn't such a bad idea.... um, what? Make up your mind. Either solar farms are ugly and business executives shouldn't "preach" to you, or solar farms aren't such a bad idea.

Make up my mind? Just because I think a solar farm is ugly doesn't mean I have to pick a side or that failing to take a side makes me wrong or that my opinion should be disregarded. I can like something that's ugly. I can also hate something that's ugly. You're attacking without substance.

Also, stating that 200 years out of 4.5 billion is insignificant is more of a fact than me preaching. But I'll preach by stating- It's pretty arrogant of the human population to think they really have the answers when were so insignificant in the entire picture. That's my opinion.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 4:26 PM

Uh huh.

Admittedly, the ASD makes me prone to viewing things as this OR that, no shades of grey....

...solar farms are somehow less ugly than oil derricks? What does "ugly" have to do with generating power?

...you're sick of company execs preaching to you about solar warming, but you're cool with using solar power? So you don't want people to "preach" to you about something you endorse?

...200 years out of 4.5 billion is insignificant is a fact... or is it your opinion? I'm not clear on which side you're coming down on.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 4:39 PM

Okay Jinx, lol.

Eric, I'd love to hear a valid argument as to solar being a bad thing. With facts other than someone you know doesn't like it.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:54 PM

How about I construct a solar array in the backyard of my home and for six hours or more a day the reflection from my panels sends blinding, hot rays of sun into your home leaving you with no choice but to install and use blackout shades in your home all-day long. In addition your air-conditioner now must be used almost twice as often as before and your backyard pool is unusable as well. Would you be okay with that? (no joke my neighbor's issue)

Also, prior to the installation of the same solar panels the fire department opposed it because the panels have been known to occasionally start fires and this area is high-risk for wildfires. So is solar a good option in this case? Not in my opinion.

Here is another one. California's new solar power site in the Mojave Desert off Interstate-15 is killing thousands of birds each year.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1513420/california-solar-power-station-bu...n-mid-air/

I really enjoy the irony of green energy. Both solar and wind kill lots of birds. I'm not a bird lover, but I don't wish to see them unnecessarily killed.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 7:26 PM

Wow. That's your 'arguement'? That a residential solar panel reflects light into someones house?

Yep. Solar still wins that battle.

But lol. Really. LOL. Out loud.

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