Monday, November 1, 2004 9:13 AM
Here is some news video of the fight. I think it was the East Side Nitro Gang Vs the North Side Vipers.
Monday, November 1, 2004 10:17 AM
My best friend and I were there for part of the day yesterday (Sunday/Halloween), and it's not surprising this happened. Actually I'm surprised it took until 8 p.m. for a major fight to break out. The lines were horrendously long all day, and the crowd wasn't exactly a "family" crowd at the park.
It's sad... I really enjoy SFGAdv as a park, but the security there is severely lacking for the urban crowds that come from Philadelphia and NYC. Not once during these fall weekends did I see any security personell in the lines or patrolling the park.
Best wishes to SFGAdv for building the next tallest and fastest ride, but honestly, I'd rather see them spend that money on security, more ops, and maintenance.
Monday, November 1, 2004 1:23 PM
Let me guess...the Vipers won with a knockout punch? Lol sorry couldn't help it.
Every time I go to SFGAdv I see this interesting mix of teenyboppers, thugs, and average people...I'm surprised more fights don't break out at the park.
But I agree with Tigger, there should be more security and ops...at the small park I was formerly employed at (season's over and I'm not going back), Sesame Place, we had plenty of security, and there was always someone around, whether it be a supervisor or maintenance or park prep (broom pusher) who could watch over guests...they really could use more security at Six Flags.
Monday, November 1, 2004 3:07 PM
I was in line for Nitro during this whole ordeal. Luckily, we weren't near the mess. It was weird how everyone in the que just all started screaming and pushing toward the front to see what they could see. People were hopping over fences running toward the commotion and security guards were running around everywhere. It was really out of control.
I do think that Six Flags handled it very well though. They closed down Nitro to clear everyone away from the area. We headed over to guest relations to find out if it was going to open again that night (it was already about 8:30 and the park closed at 9.) The lady there gave us an exit pass, and we were able to catch the last train of the season on Nitro. There was a lot of complaining going on up at the station, with closing the q-bot line at 9 to people trying to get rerides. I was pleased that we still got our Nitro ride and everything worked out.
The whole ordeal was amusing and quite frightening-- just what I expected goint to an amusement park during fright fest. ;)
Monday, November 1, 2004 5:30 PM
I was there on the 23rd and the 31st, and the crowds were horrendous. Both the regular and overflow lots were full, and the water park lot was being used. It also surprises me that ONLY one fight broke out. Line cutting and jumping is the rule, not the exception unfortunately. I literally didn't see any dressed security guards. Both experiences were enough to keep me from renewing my pass, Kingda Ka or not.
They need to seriously consider limiting ticket sales for Fright Fest. Lines for most rides were an hour and up to 2+ hours for the major coasters. Lines for Fright Fest specific things such as the hayrides (which were both totally lame this year) were at least 2 hours. It was a really bad experience. And to top it off the line for guest relations was just as bad.
SF still has MAJOR strides to make in attempting to make the general publics visit one that is fun and not aggravating and frustrating.
Monday, November 1, 2004 6:30 PM
I showed up at the park at about 6PM, and they were parking everyone in the waterpark lot by that point. I took a look at the crowd still going in, and decided it was a bad idea and just left. Good thing I did too.
Monday, November 1, 2004 11:01 PM
I hope that someone from Great Adventure actually moniters this site. This is my home park, and I've always felt that security here is a joke. Thankfully, most of the unruly people are too clueless to realize that security here is very easy to breach. I won't go into specifics, but there are several ways to get things past the metal detectors. I think that the negative attitude on the part of patrons starts with the time it takes to get through security and is further elevated by the poor customer service and inability to run at capacity.
You don't hear of such incidents at Cedar Fair parks, where no metal detectors are in place. Instead, they deploy their security force throughout the park and it makes for an all around safer feel.
Six Flags, please see the light and do away with the metal detectors, spread your security force throughout the park, and run your attractions at full capacity.
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 5:50 AM
I was also there 10/31. I parked in the HH lot and only stayed so my sister could renew her passes. I planned on seeing Dead Man's Party and leaving, but I lucked out.
While politely renewing her passes at Guest relations my sister scored an Exit pass. Thus ensuring my last Nitro ride of the season.
Kudo's to the Nitro staffbecause it was insane on the platform.I agree however that they need more security. I haven't seen security working the lines since I was 12 yrs old. Our local paper said attendence was 36k that night.
*** This post was edited by RedLaFrance 11/2/2004 5:51:58 AM ***
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 8:23 AM
I have to disagree with SJ. They need to keep there metal detectors. I would like to see them have 3 or 4 full time Police in the park at all times. There is a new security booth right by the entrance to Nitro. SFGADV has always had staffing issues. Maybe they should hire a private firm for security and become super stricked. Throw people out left and right get some finger print technology. Take everyones finger print when you enter the park and matches it against a list of people banned. Something needs to be done.
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 12:57 PM
I agree with having some real police officers in the park. The current staff of security guards is not very effective. Many are scrawny teens who do not get paid enough or have guts enough to step in when something is going wrong. You could cut that staff dramatically, particularly at the gates, and put real police officers throughout the park such as Dorney or CP does. I think that you would find this to make a world of difference. I stick with my suggestions to remove the metal detectors for this reason and because of the fact that they do not serve their purpose. Under the current conditions, there are several ways to sneak things into the park. They are merely there to give the public a "false" sense of security. The only thing that the current conditions manage to do is get the public aggravated before they even enter the park.*** This post was edited by SJ Coasternut 11/2/2004 12:57:56 PM ***
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 7:42 PM
I was in line for Behind the Screams tour and Nitro and Batman: The ride stopped running trains. I didn't know what happen until now. I just hope nobody was seriously hurt.
Thursday, November 4, 2004 12:20 PM
Three diiferent Six Flags parks on the same weekend had brawls. Six Flags America, Great Adventure, and Over Texas. Lets compare that to every other franchise park that had Halloween events going on this weekend. How many of these other parks had reports fights breaking out in Six Flags fashion, NONE!